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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Tang

Jeff Tang has started 1 posts and replied 62 times.

Post: Do Not Trust Keyspire Like I Did!!!!

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

I just finished the 3-day workshop webinar and I too was disappointed that Scott McGillivray was not a main presenter; he did show up for about 10-15 min today and provided some good tips. Overall, the presenter was good, but I felt that 1/3 of the workshop was busy schlepping their advance training program ($7.5K-$14K). For what I paid, it did provide a glimpse of what was possible and didn't require I jump around to different articles to figure things out. I learned about how the 4 ways to win, how to use my RSA, and Flip to Myself (BRRRR in disguise), but as others said, it was just a taste and a tease to get you to want more; I can do all that on BP.

 

Post: Structuring Private Money Deals

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

I want to know if the deal went through @Evan Ventura.

Post: Oakland Weekend REI Meetup

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

I'd be interested in a future meetup. Let me know when. Thx!

Post: New Member from Alameda, California

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

Hey @John Mejia

Welcome to BP!  I think we met via Sal at his office that one day. LMK if you want to chat sometime.

Post: Rehab Price

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Mary Ann Casey:

I live in the San Francisco Bay area, and if I could use the $10-$30 rough estimates per square foot for rehab, I'd be living in a mansion!  $10-$30 won't work here, so I'll go with J Scott's suggestion of using up to $250 per square foot as an estimate, since I've received estimates like that before when asking for improvements to my own home in the East Bay.

J Scott's example of $250/SF was for new construction; rehab will be much lower than that...just not $10-$30/SF.

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @James Pearson:

As someone who knows what it's like to be on the other side of this deal, there is probably a better way to arrange this.  I would start with finding an attorney that could draw up a contract.  500k home in Cali is much less than a 500k home in other areas.  

As far as how to set up the deal, I would just ensure there are contingencies and you are protected.  A 50/50 split is reasonable, and you simply need to ensure that your money and credit are being put to good use.  Make sure this person has the skillset and knowledge to properly do the work.  Trade references are a good starting point.  I would think a smaller amount to start would be completely possible.  You want to find the worst home in a good neighborhood that needs to be updated.  Simple stuff like flooring, cabinets, paint, appliances.  You don't want to get into a project that needs things like walls moved, adding and removing plumbing and electrical.  Dont get an older home.  Something built in 1985 or after.   Try to stay away from things like drywall where matching texture would be involvled.  Anything past scraping popcorn off ceilings can be tricky, especially if this is your first venture with the person.  He needs to have connections with other trades in the area, vendors, etc.

Last piece of advice, make this person get all supplies, materials in his or her name, not yours.  That is where this person getting 50% of the profit takes risk away from you.  At the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you don't want to owe a bank, hardware store, subcontractors.  You're basically partnering with this person to be the general contractor for what your money can buy.  A few other things you will need are an established realtor that will list the house at the right time and sell it fast and check comps before you buy, a backup contractor in case this other person doesn't follow through or needs help finishing in a timely manner and possibly secondary financing in case you need more money just to finish and protect your initial loan.  

Best of luck.  No risk, no reward!

 Sound advice...thanks!  Will keep in mind when I discuss it further with him.

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Adam Stacey:
Originally posted by @Jeff Tang:
Originally posted by @Adam Stacey:

The risk is worth more than 25k. I do 50/50 split on similar deals.

 I don't have the full picture of the deal (he was throwing ideas out there over the phone), but it sounded like we'd split the profits after all other things paid off; he estimated it to be about $25K each.  I need to see what the proposal would look like on paper.

 I have a similar deal in memphis tn I'm looking at. I would do all the work if someone would provide funding. 50/50 split of est 300k net profit. Let me know if your intrested..

 Thx, but definitely not the same type of deal that I'm looking at.  

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Cal C.:

Sorry, I should have said at most RISK at most $100k and only then if it won't hurt you.   By risk I mean everything you would be on the hook for including a loan.  I'd suggest looking around for someone with a great reputation who is looking for some private money and is willing to also walk you through the entire process from purchase to sell.

 No worries, I knew what you were trying to say.  Thx!

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Cal C.:

At the very most $100k and only if it won't hurt you!

Unfortunately, that's beyond what I'd be able to contribute.  But I get what your saying. Try to be a part of a deal where I'm contributing a smaller amount.  If I came in with say 50% of the down payment, what would that be normally worth?

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Adam Stacey:

The risk is worth more than 25k. I do 50/50 split on similar deals.

 I don't have the full picture of the deal (he was throwing ideas out there over the phone), but it sounded like we'd split the profits after all other things paid off; he estimated it to be about $25K each.  I need to see what the proposal would look like on paper.