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All Forum Posts by: JD Martin

JD Martin has started 62 posts and replied 9331 times.

Post: Start investing vs clearing debt first

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Originally posted by @Dustan Marshall:

good topic. I have two units now. And found Dave Ramsey. I ance been really conflicted between continuing the BRRRR method for more units or debt snow ball to pay off current loans then save for next purchase. This question had me a bit paralyzed at the moment. Not knowing which way I want to go. But the market is rising (almost to fast). So I have taken this time to try and figure out my next move and to see what the market is doing. Certainly safer to go with Ramsey strategy. But the allure of more units is always a strong pull

 Keep in mind that you are mortal and have a limited number of years to employ that strategy ;)

Post: Start investing vs clearing debt first

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What is the interest rate and remaining interest to be paid on the car? If you are at 0% or close, and have a high income to expense ratio, and are not upside down on the car, I don't see a problem. You should *never* exchange liquid cash for non-liquid assets or objects without a significant cushion set aside to pay actual expenses, and that goes for anything - living expenses, investment expenses, etc. If that $30k represents all your liquid assets, I wouldn't touch it either way. 

Post: What percent of an applicants income to rent do you want?

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Monthly Rent x 3 < Monthly Gross Income. This is less important in hard numbers the higher you go up in scale, and more important the lower you go, as ratios are less important than hard dollars. Example, for the places I rent ~$600-700, it is very important that they minimally meet this threshold, because there is a somewhat fixed cost to simply existing - buying food, gasoline, etc. If I was renting a place for $2000, it would be a little less important because the ratio isn't necessarily the same - people might have a more expensive car, or eat better food, but not strictly in a ratio formula. $4000 gross income free to pay for everything else is better than $1200 gross income, any way you look at it. 

Post: Staging Rental Units

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I would definitely do it if I had the material to do it already, i.e. I wouldn't buy anything but would take things out of storage, and if the property was odd so that people would understand how their furniture could fit. If you have to pay for it, I wouldn't bother; moat renters expect a property to be empty when they see it.

Post: Diary of a $3,900 house ... wait, what? $3,900, yes that's right!

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Originally posted by @Dawn Anastasi:

HUD-1 came at 4:30pm today and my bank closed at 5:00pm, so I could not get my cashier's check. However, a branch is open at 9:00am just 4 minutes from the closing company so I'll have to get my cashier's check right at 9am then head over to closing.

Total closing costs = $165.82

I'm excited to start this project!

 I have been following your project, its really interesting! I do have a question: how did you get closing costs so low? Just a couple of cash deals I recently did had title costs of about $500, $350 or so for title work and $150 for title insurance, which isn't required here on a cash deal but insurance that I think would be crazy to skip. 

Post: Smart Move Screening

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Originally posted by @Payam Dastmalchi:

Yes, we just used Smartmove to run a couple of applications and the process was fairly simple and quick. It cost $35 for both criminal and credit checks and the information provided was relevant.  

I am also keeping an eye on a new startup cozy.co; I may give them a try next time just to compare services. 

 I use cozy for a tenant that wanted to set up automatic payments each month, which is free with cozy. She just got it set up so I can't tell you yet how well it works.

Post: Smart Move Screening

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Originally posted by @Troy Young:

If you have used "Smart Move" for screening your tenants how did it work for you? How much does it cost per applicant? Are there any other resources that you like more?

 I use it. I think it works well. $35 per application. I have the tenant pay it directly.

Post: Pit bulls as service dogs.....

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Originally posted by @Nicole A.:

I totally understand and support landlords choosing not to allow any dog that even resembles a Pit Bull in their rental. 

I'm not trying to change THAT stance.

I'm just clarifying that there are lots of skewed statistics out there. They are generally good dogs. They're happy, goofy, and smart just like any other dog.

 I agree. Some breeds have more propensity for territorial behavior, which is generally the prerequisite for being more aggressive, but it is whether or not that behavior is encouraged that determines whether the dog will be forwardly aggressive. I had a Rottweiler and she was a sweet dog. She was definitely more territorial than my Labs, but she was the furthest thing from vicious. I have no doubt she would have torn someone apart coming through the window of the house, but she played well with kids and other dogs in public places. But she was fixed, had a good owner, was socialized, and was well-trained. 

Back to the original question, sometimes I think people are far too panicked over "what might happen". Risk management is taking reasonable steps to protect oneself. If your insurance policy excludes breeds of dogs, then it would be reasonable to exclude them from your rental. If not, and you have good insurance, I wouldn't lose 5 minutes of sleep over it if the dog (and the tenant) met my standards - that generally means if the tenant meets my standards, the dog is most likely to meet them as well, and that has played out. I have 2 units with dogs in them, one with 2 big dogs, and all of the dogs are well behaved, cared for properly, are not damaging the house in the least, and are quite pleasant to be around. But so are the tenants ;)

Post: The psychology of "Do it yourself"

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Originally posted by @Jay Orlauski:

I think it's great that you like to DIY - I think it is part what got you where you are today by having that mindset. As you have read, it can indeed pay to have someone else performing chores while you could be doing something else that is far more valuable - but I also think it comes down to personal choice and also depends a lot on where you are in real estate business. For example, if you are just starting out and aren't really making much an hour AND you enjoy doing the work - then I think it makes a lot of sense to tackle some things on your own.   The personal joy you get out of making things shiny and new again is a difficult to quantify in terms of money - many times when I'm in the yard doing my own yard work for my tri-plex - I often think that I could be paying someone to do it while I do something else - but the truth is - I really enjoy working in the yard - so much so that sometimes I almost feel guilty for spending time there and not doing something else.  But then I think about the joy I get out of it and realize , that I do what I do so that I CAN enjoy small moments like that. Now if your real estate empire is growing, and your time becomes more valuable and scarce - the benefits of outsourcing will start making sense to you and you will pick and choose the things you prefer to keep your hands on. One thing I always keep in mind is knowing where to draw the line and understanding my own limitations - there are many chores that I do with out a second thought -however, every now and then a task come up that I know I need to bring in a professional - I don't do roof repairs or anything that has to do with the outside electrical - even though I have no problem replacing lights, sockets, ceiling fans , etc. Sometimes I look at a project and know that I need some outside help - it helps a lot when you have the equipment and know what your doing - but there is a lot to be said about learning new skills too. I think in the end , it is something that you will have to decide for yourself and determine - when you find yourself face to face with a  gaping toilet hole drain - you really start to rethink your DIY strategies - but afterwards - its hard to not take personal satisfaction in the fact that you just saved $200 by handling the problem on your own.  

 Great post. I agree wholeheartedly; there are some things that I can do that the last few years I started farming out - your roof example is a good one. I can replace my own roof, but I'm not as limber and have a real fear that I may come tumbling off, which will severely limit my ability to make money or do any other repairs - so I farm that out. I also don't like working in nasty basements or crawl spaces anymore, so I farm that out too. 

You are right in the satisfaction part. Also, I spent 20 years accumulating all the tools under the sun, and doing jobs myself not only saves the labor but also repays the tools many times over. And I enjoy it. 

One thing I didn't mention that I disagree with in the book is the idea that every hour is, or can be, a profitable one at the same financial level. They mention how few millionaires do anything themselves, as they see it as a financial waste of their time - but what if that time was going to otherwise be spent watching movies, searching for sliced golf balls, or generally doing other activities that are money-negative? I think it unrealistic to believe that every waking hour can be equally financially productive, and I like to think of the time I spend doing some of this stuff as my "hobby", rather than something I'm doing because I absolutely have to do it. 

Post: What no one says about using OPM (other people's money)

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Originally posted by @Johnny Mack:

THANK YOU! I'm so tired of hearing about the "own nothing, control everything" attitude. Especially in buy and hold. First of all, how can you call yourself an investor if you don't actually own anything? You're just a property manager for your lender. Second, if you're constantly refinancing (or "harvesting your equity", what a stupid term), that's like being a minority partner in a business, buying yourself a majority stake, then selling back to your partner so you can buy another business while still managing the first.

Maybe this stuff works for rehabbers or whoever, but it seems counterintuitive for long term landlords.

 Not really, I think it just has to be done in an intelligent manner. You make some good points, and I would be fearful of having all properties leveraged - that said, I think it makes absolute sense to "harvest", as you put it, your equity in something that is paid for/largely paid for in order to obtain more properties, especially if you plan to hold the properties. Why? Because of the nature of compounding. If everyone was immortal, and could work forever, you could simply save your way into never working again. But there is a real limit as to how long you have to make the numbers work - this is why every investment professional I know of recommends people start heavy-duty saving/investing as young as possible; you need the magic of compounding returns to end up with anything at the end. Let's say you save up enough money to put $30k down on a $100k house that you are going to rent out. If you keep working to pay it off, and use whatever rent you get to pay it off, and then once that is done save up another $30k to put down on another house, you are going to be constantly running to catch returns until such point as you are too old to keep working to put your own money into the pot. The point of real estate investing should be, primarily, to make money. If you can make 1.5% the return by splitting your money into two pots, with low risk, why wouldn't you? 

All that has to happen at the end of the day is that the numbers have to work. If you have a fixed mortgage of $500 on a property that easily market rents for $2k, you have a whole lot of room to play with before you are in a negative cash situation. Where most people, I suspect, get into trouble is that they do not bankroll the wads for a rainy day, and instead use the returns to either create an empire with too many risky properties, or use it to fuel a consumption lifestyle that isn't warranted with a decent amount of debt to service. The saying that you can't eat equity works both ways - it doesn't make a lot of financial sense, unless you are at your final point, to have loads of equity in houses sitting there, but if you don't have lots of equity you better have lots of cash.