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All Forum Posts by: Jason Bott

Jason Bott has started 7 posts and replied 2454 times.

Post: Looking for radical ideas for saving money on insurance for commercial multifamily

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Quote from @James McGovern:

Looking for radical ideas for saving money on insurance for commercial multifamily properties. Got any suggestions other than laboriously shopping around?


James, depends on the type of property you have. SFR, STR, Strip mall, Commercial/industrial or 24 unit complex?

Post: Looking for an insurance broker for an umbrella policy

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Quote from @Amir Navabpour:

If anyone knows an insurance broker who can provide an umbrella policy, I would welcome any referrals.  Properties are in KC, MO


 Amir, I can send you the companies we use for our investors clients.  

Most agents do no want to just write the Umbrella if they do not handle the other policies.  Reason being it is too easy for clients to forget to notify the Umbrella company when they have changes to their Home, Auto or rentals.  Then there is a claim, it is not listed on the Umbrella and there are big issues.  The best option is to have everything with one agent if possible.

Post: How much insurance is too much?

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Quote from @Rob Bianco:

My insurance broker and I are not seeing eye-to-eye lately. I own about 15 duplexes and I've always felt like I paid a little too much on insurance because I always paid more than anyone else I knew. I never really thought to look into things until my insurance broker said my rates would go up 20% - 30% moving into 2024-2025. 

Right now I'm paying about $100/month per door. Most people I know are paying about $75/month.

So I went and got quotes from NREIG and Shelter Insurance. My insurance guy said their quotes were DP1 and he's writing DP3 and wouldn't touch DP1 policies. My Broker's policies include things neither NREIG or Shelter offered including coverage for: Sewer Line, Water Backup, Water Damage, and Personal Property. 

As a business owner paying more is costing me about $7200/year in extra expense. I don't want to be over insured or under insured, but it's hard to tell what's what because everyone in insurance is such a good salesman. What should I be doing?



 Rob, everything your agent is saying is correct, it just comes down to what you want covered.  Don't feel guilty because you don't want to buy the extra coverage for $7,200 if you are comfortable coving those claims out of pocket.

How many claims have you filed in the last 5 years that would fall under the DP?  

Also, keep in mind, in this insurance market, if you file 1-2 claims, they will cancel you and you will need to go to market with losses on your record.  The alternative options will be higher than what you are currently paying.  

TIP - Raising your deductible to $5k will usually eliminate the need for the Water Sewer Back Up and Business Personal Property as those claims are usually around those amounts.

Replacement of Sewer Line in not available on commercial policies.  I have seen these cost $12k-$20k.

Water Damage is the big one and can cause $100k in damages to a SFR if the building is left vacant and the heat is off during a cold spell. Pipes burst in the walls and flooring can be ruined.

Post: Renter's insurance Inquiry

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Quote from @David F.:

I have a tenant who didn't have access to 1 room because of repairs that needed to occur.  As a result they have requested rent to be pro-rated for that month.  They are required to have a renter's insurance policy in place.  I understand renter's insurance policies reimburse tenants if/when they are required to be fully displaced from a residence, would a typical renter's insurance policy reimburse a tenant in this situation even though they never had to fully move out, just out of the one bedroom?  Thanks in advance.


 David, a policy needs to be triggered by a covered loss, for a Renters Policy it is typically the city announcing the unit is not habitable.  Without this "trigger" chances are there would be no coverage.

Post: Property Management insurance?????

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@Duane A. Snow with 6 years experience, there are several insurance carriers who will offer coverage for your new PM business.  We have many DM clients and I'll will send you approximate cost and the insurance carriers.

Post: Best insurance companies for single family rentals?

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@Henry Lazerow it all depends on where the rental is located and if you have 1 or 100.  

Many companies have exited the SFR space in the 2nd half of 2023, with the half that stayed in raising their new business rates.

Post: business owner insurance policy for unique apartment complex

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@Alex P. This is becoming more and more of an issue.  The fact of the matter is the insurance requirements are going to need to start to bend a little as the insurance market doesn't have the capacity to meet these requirements with an affordable premium.  We have gone ahead an issued renewals without all of the requirements and told the lender we just can not find the appropriate coverage.

Trust me, your not the only investor the bank has who is having these issues.

Post: Life Insurance Needs

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@Matt Moylan runs a life brokerage and should be able to come up with some options for you.

Post: Landlord Insurance for Rental Properties

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@Tommy Bronken it's not a legal requirement, but if a claim is submitted against the owner who is not listed on the policy, it is possible the insurance carrier will not respond to the claim.  

It's best practice to have the Named Insureds on the policy to be listed exactly how the property owners are listed on the deed.

Post: Insurance Broker for Older Retail Center

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@Kim Hopkins I would be happy to review and see if there are any solutions we have that the other 2 don't have access too.  I'll send you a DM.