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All Forum Posts by: Ihe O.

Ihe O. has started 15 posts and replied 387 times.

Post: Minimum tenant credit score?

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Elvis Vasquez:

Its hard to say - personally 650+ .... I have a personal friend with horrible credit (600) however he's never once missed a payment on his rent. not sure if its legal to view bank statements?

and you'd rent to your friend wouldn't you. ...... well then whats the 650 for? Yes it is legal to ask for see bank statements - that's what I do instead of asking for a useless credit score/report. 

Post: Dispute on Appraisal - what say you.

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190

A drive by appraisal I had done has been disputed because  the house is a 2 bed but the comps are for 3 beds.

Appraiser said he assumed 3 bed because I didn't tell him how many bedrooms were in the house, I say he should and could have found out himself or asked me instead of assuming.

It's 30 days since the appraisal was done. 

What say you.

Post: Minimum tenant credit score?

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

The underlying problem with not establishing a fixed minimum score when screening is that if credit is going to be used at all you open yourself up to charged of possible discrimination. Flexibility in screening is a very poor approach to operating your business.

Set a minimum score otherwise you could face a serious legal challenge. Remove subjectability from your screening practices.

Landlords are not banks. A rental is not a loan. Landlords are entitled to accord credit scoring whatever weighting they choose evaluating an applicant. 

Post: Minimum tenant credit score?

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

"Only reason he has a low score is due to having defaulted on payments for his student loans. He sacrificed those in order to always pay his rent on time "

As a landlord that is the type of decisions people make that I need to know about. This individual chose to live above his income level and as a result chose to default on creditors. He is not financially wise and is not someone I would rent to for that reason. I do not want any tenant that lives on the financial edge and chooses to default on debts. Additional financial stress will result in non payment of rent. He chose to live beyond his means. This is why credit scores are a very important factor in assessing risk. They attribute a % risk factor to every individual. It is not that it was a medical bill or a student loan that caused the problem it was poor money management in not preparing in advance to deal with such issues in regards to maintaining payments. S**t happens to people, I need to insure that as a landlord I do not end up paying for it.

Your reply to a post that states 

He sacrificed those in order to always pay his rent on time "

brings up all kinds of irrelevancies.

You are a landlord not a bank. 

Post: 500k Judgement against Owner----Barking Dog !

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Allan W.:

Hi Friends,

I Was doing some research for a Client of Mine Regarding one of his tenants and specifically his liability as owner of that house. His Tenant is a Section 8 Renter and the Tenants have a Barking Pit-bull in a Pen in their backyard.

The Dog is kept in a Cage all day and is obviously not being treated well.

Story is, his tenant's Barking Dog is disturbing neighbors in a SF Residential Neighborhood. My Client thinks he has no-responsibility. I advised him other-wise.

Here's an article how a 'Barking Dog' can cause one person to loose their Home.

http://abc13.com/pets/family-loses-$500000-lawsuit-over-barking-dog/511454/

If you don't control your Tenants,....they will control you.

 The person who lost the judgement was a homeowner not a landlord. Looks like you are just using that story as an excuse to propagate feudalistic views on landlord tenant relationships.

Post: Classic debate: Pay down student loans or begin RE investment?

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Steve Walko:
Originally posted by @Ihe O.:
Originally posted by @Steve Walko:
Originally posted by @Ihe O.:

You would need to gross at least 10% on the real estate to break even on paying down the loan, then apply a risk premium (the risk that you lose money) to that % to see if it is worth it.

I think that's a good way to look at it, but shouldn't it only need to be 7% THEN apply a risk premium?

The 7% has to be net of taxes.

Do you have a good estimate for what % should be knocked off the gross ROI to get the net of taxes ROI?

That was why my original post said 10% and not 7 and that is probably on the conservative side.

Post: Minimum tenant credit score?

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190

There is a credit score simulator on Credit Karma.  It told me that if I paid $900 more off of my credit card bill my credit score would increase by 26 points. 

My credit score can gyrate 50 points in any given month depending on whether I clear a balance or take advantage of an interest free credit offer (which is why I am not paying off the $900).

You are not going to listen to this advice but I will give it anyway. It is very easy to gerrymander a certain credit score, there are several better ways to assess an applicant, the best one is previous rental history.  Use them.

Post: Classic debate: Pay down student loans or begin RE investment?

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Steve Walko:
Originally posted by @Ihe O.:

You would need to gross at least 10% on the real estate to break even on paying down the loan, then apply a risk premium (the risk that you lose money) to that % to see if it is worth it.

I think that's a good way to look at it, but shouldn't it only need to be 7% THEN apply a risk premium?

The 7% has to be net of taxes.

Post: Classic debate: Pay down student loans or begin RE investment?

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190

You would need to gross at least 10% on the real estate to break even on paying down the loan, then apply a risk premium (the risk that you lose money) to that % to see if it is worth it.

Post: Are you not afraid to be in debt for 30 years?

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Mary Jay:

Are you guys not afraid to be in debt for 30 years? All three of my houses I bought on a 15 year loans to avoid being in debt. But all three of them have negative cash flow. One is almost paid off so my plan is to sell it and it will help paying off the house where I live...

I see a lot of investors are taking 30 year loans and buy 50 properties/units that do have positive cash flow, but what if another market crash happens and you have 50 percent vacancies on your 50 properties? Are you guys not afraid? Or what is your strategy?

You cannot fear that which you do not understand.

Many don't understand how debt works or that cash flow and capital gain do not necessarily correlate in the same direction.