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All Forum Posts by: Ihe O.

Ihe O. has started 15 posts and replied 387 times.

Post: I am a Hood Landlord

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

That's the great thing about America; you can run your business the way you want to. 

I know a local Landlord with 40 rentals. He's considered a slumlord in these parts because his "policy" is to accept the first person with cash in hand, never make repairs until absolutely necessary, never use a written lease agreement, and he keeps utilities in his name so that he can shut them off if the tenant doesn't pay rent. He's been doing it for over 30 years, has never been sued, has never been to court to evict a tenant, and makes over $40,000 a month. Some of his behavior is absolutely illegal and I would never recommend anyone follow his lead, but it's worked for him.

OK. But how does that correlate  to anything that I  posted.

Post: I am a Hood Landlord

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
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Originally posted by @Eric James:

So you have just 1 place, with 1 family? If so, you may be in for a big change when you get other renters.  I too have a few units where credit history isn't the main screening criteria, but they're not in the 'hood'.

I did not say that I have 1 place and I did not say that I have 1 family Sir. 

Post: I am a Hood Landlord

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Sam Josh:

Do they pay you on time? Any other issues like drugs or gang activity? How do you collect your rent (cash or check)? Any collateral issues to worry about, like one of the hoodies showing up at your doorstep with a weapon etc?

I'm not worried about being paid on time, I'm worried about being paid and they pay every month.

They are a family, mother her sister and their adult son, when they moved in she was working at the school at the end of the street so they had obvious motive for wanting to live their.

They deposit into my bank account, very occasionally I have collected cash. 

I have had them for 4 years. Some initial teething issues because in the hood they assume you are a slum landlord and they have to fight for everything. 

Bottom line they are good people. That family will probably stay in that house forever.

Post: I am a Hood Landlord

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190

Not only that I rent to people that most people here would disqualify on grounds of credit history. In fact  I don't know the credit history of any of my tenants - never checked it.

Yes I check stuff, yes I have grounds for rejecting applicants, no the state of their credit isn't one of them, yes I know some people here will get apoplectic about that, no it doesn't make any sense to do that for the demographic that are going to apply for a rental in the hood.

So with that out of the way and it is relevant context, I am going to post about conversation had with one of my tenants last week.

Me: Hi it's starting to get warm and I noticed last year the house seemed rather hot in the summer are you alright for air conditioning.

Tenant: We ok Mr O, we got some air conditioners last year.

Me: Really, you bought portables.

Tenant: No we bought some had someone install them in the windows.

Me: You should have told me you needed that I would have got it for you.

Tenant: That's ok Mr O.

Me: Do you have the receipts so that I can reimburse you.

Tenant: You don't need to do that Mr O we are ok. 

Post: I went through my 1st Eviction

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Soh Tanaka:

@Nathan Gesner Yes, this is happening in IL. After living for 5 years with only a few problems, the tenants stopped paying in December. All the process was done pretty much on time, except since this was the first eviction for me, I did the 5-day notice too late but was done by the end of the month. The court date was set on 2/1. After that, they had till 2/22 to move out. They didn't. Now the sheriff needs to kick them out, but because they are "backed up", I'm still waiting for them to come. It takes time. I wish there's a service where we can pay extra to the sheriff, and they will expedite the process.

While it is true that paying the bad tenants will cause more problems in the future for other landlords, we have to think about ourselves and our owners first. If we do everything right, and we still get to a point where we have to evict the tenants, I wonder if it's better for the owners to potentially receive no payments for 5 months and still pay the eviction fee or better to pay $x and move on.  

 See this is what amuses me sometimes. You all go on about credit checks, which for me are a waste of time because they don't reveal anything about rental history.

Then  there is thing that paying cash for keys rewards a bad tenant. 

Look a bad tenant is the one who sits in your house until eviction day and costs you more than the cash for keys guy. The cash for keys guy you can reason with the one who sits in your house you can't. Maybe the cash for keys guy just can't afford the rent anymore and can't afford to move so it is both of your best interest to help him move on. That's not necessarily a bad tenant.

Irrespective bad tenants only cause problems for landlords who don't do their due diligence and take references from previous landlords. Cash for keys has nothing to do with this.

Post: I went through my 1st Eviction

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

@Ihe O. Bad stuff happens to everyone, sometimes through no fault of our own. Does that eliminate all contractual obligations? Of course not. If someone loses their job, I have pity on them and let them terminate a lease early and waive the fees. But I certainly don't let them continue living in the home for five months hoping they get a new job and catch up. I don't know of any profession that accepts that.

I understand some states are more time-consuming but from what I've read online, Maryland allows you to start the eviction process the day after rent is due. Then you give notice and wait 30 days for the tenant to pay or vacate. If they don't, you file in court and get a hearing within 30 days. Are you saying district court is backed up 3-4 months?

Here's my point: even if you believe the situation will "resolve itself" you should take the steps towards eviction as soon as legally allowed. If the tenant catches up, you can always cancel the eviction. If the tenant doesn't catch up, you proceed as planned. I would also point out that the vast majority of tenants manage to catch up once they receive the initial Pay or Quit notice. Of those that don't, the majority pay up or move out when they receive the court summons. They know they owe the money and that they don't have a defense so they typically won't bother fighting it.

If you wait five months for the issue to resolve itself but it doesn't, you are five months behind and then start the process to evict. That would put you 8 - 9 months behind on rent, which is not a good policy.

How does "cash for keys" get your money back? It doesn't. You're willing to lose five months of rent to see if the situation resolves itself and - when it doesn't - pay even more money to get rid of the problem?!?

Eviction gets rid of the tenant and it awards a judgment that can be used to recover losses. At a minimum, it punishes the tenant by hurting their credit score and warns other Landlords that this tenant is a problem.

No matter what the tenant thinks, you are rewarding bad behavior by excusing their debt and offering them additional funds to give you back what is rightfully yours. I don't know of any other profession that does that.

First lets talk about timelines.

You have to wait for a court date to be allocated 2 - 3 weeks.

You have to wait for the hearing date to arrive - up to a month.

You have to wait for the court paperwork to send to the sherriff after you win - 2- 3 weeks.

You have to wait for the sherrifs to schedule your eviction - anything up to 3 months.

So rushing to file eviction as soon as legally possible isn't going to mitigate much of that loss. Further it is going to generate fees (I use attorneys) that either I or the tenant have to pay and that I would rather see go towards rent. 

Cash for keys mitigates your losses in the case of a tenant you want out of your home. That's the right way to look at it, the notion of rewards and behavior don't come into it because the relationship is being terminated. 

In a similar vein I am a landlord not a tenant vigilante. I am not in the business of using the legal system to chase after monies I am unlikely to recover and if a future landlord has  the sense to go to past landlords for tenant references they can get all the protection they need.

Just because I owned a house it doesn't mean I need  to sit in judgement  over someone who was unable to pay me under the terms of a contract. Sometimes life happens and even if it didn't it is better to look forward than to look back just so you can punish someone. 

Post: I went through my 1st Eviction

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

@Soh Tanaka it looks like your rental is in Illinois. It's my understanding you can start the eviction process in the first month and evict the tenant within 30 - 45 days. Did you allow them to get 4-5 months behind on rent before filing for eviction? Were you conducting inspections to see if they were taking care of the home? Were these tenants properly screened before moving in?

I don't mean to insult you or anyone else. I just want people to understand that the vast majority of problems are caused by Landlords that fail to set policies and enforce them. They "create" bad tenants. Telling someone to pay the tenant for bad behavior is just another bad policy that results in more bad tenants and more problems for future Landlords.

1. Stuff happens. People lose their jobs, get their hours cut, run into an unexpected medical situation. As much as a landlord thinks rent ought to be a tenants top priority if you are faced with a bunch of legal bills because a family member has some issue with the simple fact is events can conspire to derail that notion or desire. For the vast majority of people it makes no sense to be a "bad tenant" because it jeopardizes the roof over your head. 

2. In Baltimore City there is a 2-3 month lead time to the eviction date, plus you have to add on time to upgrade and fill your vacancy plus whatever time it took to decide to file the eviction in the first place. 

In PG County in MD they do not tell you until days before when your eviction date will b.  I had a 5 month gap from initial court filing to actual eviction because you first have to get a preliminary ruling (things like warrants of restitution). 

So  for a tenant who can't or won't pay it is very easy to rack up 5 months of rent losses. This is why I am not a "rush to file eviction landlord". In MD you are easily looking at 5 months plus to have your tenant evicted so I would rather wait a few more weeks to see if the situation resolves itself. Those few extra weeks are only going to be a minor component of your overall loss in the worst case, more often the situation resolves itself.

What people forget is that eviction is a solution  designed to get rid of a tenant. It is not designed to accomplish what most landlords want which is to get their money back.

One last thing. I very much doubt that the recipient of a cash for keys views it as a reward, the person has lost their home, so it helps neither the landlord nor the tenant to view things that way.

Post: I went through my 1st Eviction

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Jeff Gates:

I spent $1200 on legal fees, and lost 40 days rent. The rental was not pretty when they left, but I can't say it will cost more than $2000 to bring the rental back to the condition I need. 

Although you spent too much in legal fees overall that is extremely cheap. I lost 5 months rent with my first eviction and spent 7k on upgrades after they left.

Post: Pros and Cons of cash buying!

Ihe O.Posted
  • Investor
  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Jerry Cinor:

What are the pros and cons of buying a rental property cash? 

Just want to hear you guys opinion. And any other suggestion/awareness you guys might have for me.

Thank you!

Pro -  You have no mortgage obligation every month so there is no need to freak out every month  a tenant is late with the rent.

Pro - You have no mortgage obligation every month so there you don't feel pressured to rush to fill a vacancy with an unsuitable tenant.

Con - You have no mortgage obligation every month so there is less of a tax write off and you are more likely to pay more taxes on your rental income.

Post: Renting to non citizens

Ihe O.Posted
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  • Laurel, MD
  • Posts 395
  • Votes 190
Originally posted by @Tom Gimer:

@Ihe O. You must be thinking of someone else. I'm the guy who observes you finding disparate impact in everything and makes sure your statements of fact and law which sometimes turn out to be opinions found in tabloid magazines don't go unchallenged.

Like there is any evidence of you doing that in this discussion. 

You are wasting your time taking issue with where I see disparate impact. Make your views known to HUD and tell them you think they are wrong to investigate landlords who go around checking applicants immigrant status.