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All Forum Posts by: Harry M.

Harry M. has started 8 posts and replied 432 times.

Post: Best inspirational/motivational materials

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172
Originally posted by Seth Williams:
I get most of my motivation and inspiration from coffee.

I just had to laugh at this. I am legendary at my day job for the amount of coffee I drink!

Post: Howdy yall from Texas

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Hey Tia, welcome to BP!

Post: Finance or pay cash

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172
Originally posted by Jade Williams:
Should I save up a certain reserve amount before diving in?

Hey Jade, our formula is to set aside 6 months PITI per property. That is how much lenders require for investment properties, so we just go with that. We also have our family reserve separate from that which we could tap if we absolutely had to, so that makes me sleep a bit better at night.

-Harry

Post: Should I stay or should I go?

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

@Steven Bays

Hey Steven,

First of all, congratulations on the upcoming wedding!

I did a bit of number crunching based on the figures you gave and in my opinion, the duplex is your friend.

For a quick analysis with the 50% rule, the best way to look at the numbers is to simply ignore the fact that you live there. First, if you hold the property long term, chances are you won't live there for the bulk of those years, and second, the rent you don't receive from your side cancels with the rent/mortgage you are not paying were your primary residence separate.

Based on you saying that your interest is 4716, it sounds like you did this with a zero or verysmall downpayment. So it makes it hard to calculate a meaningful percentage return.

Anyway, using the 50% rule, I get:

Gross rent: 15600 (gross rent is your maximum theoretical rent if there were no vacancies)

Expenses @50%: 7800 (this includes all expenses except P&I: rent not received due to vacancy, insurance, taxes, maintenance, set aside for long term capital expenses such as replacing roof, property management, and so and so forth).

Gross rent minus the expenses above is called your net operating income (NOI), which is 7800 in your case.

From that, you subtract your debt service, which is the P&I portion of your mortgage payment, which if I filled in the blanks correctly should be about 557/month, or 6685/year. Does that sound right? If so, this leaves you with 93/mo (1115/year), which is your cash flow.

By the way, the reason the debt service is separated from the other expenses like this, is so that you can look at the performance of the property separate from the specific financing that an individual investor worked out.

There is another consideration which is that some of your P&I is going to pay your principle down. Even though you don't get to see it unless you sell, that is your equity, so you should consider that in the numbers. Factor that in, and it bumps the income from the property to 307/mo, or 3678/yr.

On to a couple of things more specific to your situation.

First of all, are you managing the rented side yourself, or using a management company? The 50% rule includes management in the expenses. I wouldn't recommend buying a property without running the numbers with management included (even if you initially plan to self-manage, things can change over the long haul). But since you already own the property, we should rerun the numbers w/o management (if this is indeed the case) to see where things stand for the immediate term. Without management expenses, the 50% becomes more like 40%. So your cash flow jumps to 223/mo or 2675/year, and when you factor in the principle reduction from paying your mortgage, you are now at 436/mo or 5238/yr.

While you are living there, there is another factor in your favor: the 50% rule includes vacancy in the expenses. A decent rule of thumb for estimating the vacancy component of the 50% is 8.33% (one month out of 12). This varies depending on property type amd area, but I think 8.33% is a reasonable estimate for a duplex without knowing anything else about your property/market. So, since you are technically your own tenant, you can half the vacancy estimate since you're unlikely to move out in the middle of the night without telling yourself ;). For the short term, while you are living there and managing the property yourself (I'm guessing), 36% is probably a better estimate of expenses than 50%. Taking that number, your cash flow works out to something like 275/mo (3299/yr), and your full return including the principle reduction is something like 489/mo (5862/yr).

One other thing – does your tenant pay their own utilities, or do you? The 50% rule does not include owner paid utilities, so you would have to add back an estimate of their half of the utilities into the expenses if you are paying them.

Bases on what you've told us (and especially if the tenant is paying their own utilities), it seems like the duplex is helping you quite a bit. I'd hang on to it.

The other reason I'd be hesitant to sell is that unless you have a lot of equity, then the closing costs are going to eat up all the equity you've been building up (and maybe more). As the seller, you pay both agents commission which usually totals 6% of the sale price, and that's before you get into things like seller concessions, home warranty, and all the other junk on the seller side. Real estate isn't really that liquid.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

-Harry

Post: New member from central Louisiana

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Hey Jared,

Welcome to BP! I hope this place is as helpful to you as it has been to me. I've learned tons! Good luck with your investing.

Post: buying and renting out homes

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

@Paul Mendoza

Sorry to hear about your injuries. If you're new to this, I really recommend the free beginners guide the folks at bigger pockets have put together. Go to Resources in the blue menu bar at the top, choose REI resources, and it's the first link under Real Estate Guides on the page this will take you to. There's a ton of good info.

Regarding taxes, I'm no accountant, but if you are looking to buy some homes and rent them out, taxes are pretty favorable compared to most endeavours.

Good luck!

-Harry

Post: So frustrated I just need to vent...

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

@Eric Denson

Way to go, Eric! I had similar frustrations on my last rental, but not as bad. Bank orders appraisal. Appraisal comes back promptly but low. It is also missing a couple of pictures. So the bank doesn't tell us that it's low, but sends it back to the appraiser so that he can take the extra couple of pictures. I find out at 2:08pm on the day before we were supposed close (and only because I call to ask what the f$!* is going on) that it is low. Seriously??!! The loan officer didn't have the common sense to call and say "hey, the appraisal is low" when he first received it and we had several weeks left to negotiate with the seller?! Then we could have been waiting for pictures and negotiating with the seller at the same time. What an amazingly awesome idea!

I bypassed the loan officer, and managed to get hold of his supervisor's supervisor, who knew what she was doing and was quite helpful. We were able to close a week later, and the seller graciously met me half way between the sale and appraisal amount.

Post: Dallas, TX

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

@James Quinn

Welcome onboard, James! I am almost your neighbor. I'm in Allen, on the far side of 75 from you. Best of luck with your plans!

Post: Inflation?

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

@John Jabson

You pretty much nailed it. If you own your house and have a mortgage, you get some relief due to the P&I portion of your payment devaluing over time, but for the most part you will see no real increase in your spending power if your raises are about the same as inflation.

A lot of people in a day job hit this point eventually. At first you get raises fairly easily as you gain experience and get better at your job. Then later through promotions, adding extra education, or jumping employers. But eventually you get maxed out within a certain field without making radical changes which may or may not be worth it for your overall happiness.

That was pretty much the situation I found myself in. I still really enjoy my day job, but the last raise I got that was substantially over 2% was in 2008 (I was 16 years into my career at that point). I responded by deciding that I was responsible for giving myself my own raises. We optimized our living expenses (no ramen noodles, just finding smarter ways to do things and cutting out useless crap), paid off our mortgage, and started working on accumulating rental properties. It's a slow process, especially at first, but ultimately the day job will only take you so far - the rest is down to putting the money you are able to save to work.

Post: I cannot feed my family for that.

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Hey Bryan,

The interior painting quote jumped out at me in particular. $4400 for a 2000 sf house seems really high. We finished a small rehab not long ago on a 1731 sf house, and the prices for interior painting were as follows:

walls - 900

ceilings - 350

fireplace - 75

doors - 40 each.

This was inclusive of materials and labor, and they came down to 30 for the doors after our dickering session. It was a fairly easy job in that the ceilings were pretty low (8'), and there were no hard to get at spaces, but that's still a pretty big difference.

-Harry