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All Forum Posts by: Harry M.

Harry M. has started 8 posts and replied 432 times.

Post: Letting go

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

When we first started out, we just hit the yellow pages for some cleaners. That didn't end well. They did an ok job, but they were way too expensive. We quickly realized that if we were going to be successful at this we needed to find cost effective ways to handle all the things that come up with owning rental properties. So next vacancy, we went to the opposite extreme and did it ourselves. It was a total time sink and we realized that this wasn't the way forward either. We did better on the next make-ready. My wife had recently gone back to school, and had become friends with a young lady who was doing cleaning on the side to bring in extra money. She was totally gung ho about getting the work, and did a great job for a very reasonable price. You just have to keep looking until you find the right people you can call for each type of thing that comes up. My main beef with doing it ourselves is that it stops the process of trying to find the right people.

Post: Long overdue success story - BP partnership

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Congratulations, guys! Way to go!

Post: What's a person fresh out of High School to do?

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Bryan L.:
First step. Get a job. Any job. Especially if you didn't have one in high school. Prove that you can get up early, get to work on time, work hard, follow directions, get along with people, etc, etc, etc. And save much of that money that you make.

One of my best friends mother owns a local real estate agency here. I'm guaranteed a job there after high school if that's what I want, but the real estate market here is.. boring to say the least. It's a small town of about 2,500 people, not much happens. Real estate sells, but it's just not the sort of fast paced do or die market i'm interested in. Would it be best to work at the local agency for say a year, saving all the money I earn, and then look into moving out to Colorado? I already know I need at least a 3 month cushion before I move out there, is this a good way to accomplish that?

Hey Tim,

I really like the idea of working locally there first. The hardest thing in any field, by far, is getting your foot in the door and getting that first bit of experience. Once you've got some experience behind you, things really open up. You have a golden opportunity here to get into the field. Also, if you were to stay local the first year or so, would you continue living at home for that time? If so, even better. You can fully concentrate on learning as much as you can, without as much pressure to support yourself. Also, once you know that you are pretty close to pulling the trigger for your Colorado move, you could start taking your classes online to get your Colorado real estate agents license. Then when you move you would already have your license, and be ready to hit the ground running. You could also possibly take a couple of trips out there first, and see if you can line up work before you move. That would really ease the transition, and also reduce the amount of money you need as a cushion. I still think three months is a good amount, because you have to cover yourself in case things don't work out as planned, but at least you would not be having to save enough money to cover an unknown amount of time with out any income at all (and it would also make renting a place a whole lot easier).

Good luck with your plans. You are WAY ahead of the game having such a good idea about what you want to do at a young age.

-Harry

Post: Hello from Plano TX

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Welcome to BP, Lee! I am almost your neighbor - I'm up in Allen. Best of luck with your real estate investing.

Post: Diary of a New Construction Project

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Congratulations, J! That is awesome news! Good luck the rest of the way.

Post: Close on my 1st property tomorrow...lots of lessons learned!!

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Congrats, Charlene! I'm excited for you. #1 is the biggest step of them all. Good luck!

-Harry

Post: New Member from Hampton Roads, VA

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172
Originally posted by Grant Smith:
Thanks a lot @Harry M.

I cant wait to look back in 20 years and be able to say the same thing. Id love to hear stories of how you begin, though i know the area has changed quiet a bit since you were around.

Not those kind of stomping grounds, just in the general sense. Sorry to misword it. Man, I wish I'd gotten into real estate 20 years ago, especially around Hampton Roads as there's been quite a bit of appreciation over that time in that area. I got started about 3 years ago, and it's all been here in DFW.

Post: New Member from Hampton Roads, VA

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Hey Grant,

Welcome to BP! Hampton/Norfolk/Newport News used to be my old stomping grounds 20 years ago, when I was 23. I still have fond memories of my days there. Best of luck with your investing!

-Harry

Post: Debt Free Investing

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Hey Lance,

It's a good plan, but of course the downside is that it's going to take a really long time.

If you can find properties in need of rehab, it's possible that if you can get them at enough of a discount you may be able to add enough value by rehabbing that your returns get close to what you would get by buying a rent ready property using financing. Easier said than done of course because you are searching a much smaller pool of properties, but it's possible.

Also, there are some middle ground possibilities with regard to financing. For example, suppose you figure that you could support yourself we 10 free and clear rentals (as opposed to 20 or 25 financed ones). One possibility is that you could work on purchasing these properties at a prudent pace using financing. When you reach your goal number, you get the cash flow from all 10 properties, plus the money you have been saving each month for saving for down payments, and throw it at the mortgage of whichever property has the highest interest rate. Then work on the property with the second highest interest rate, except now you have the increased cash flow from the first property that you paid off to throw at it as well. You get a nice snowball effect.

One thing I like about this kind of plan is that you accept the higher risk of the debt only during your younger years when you have your job income to help mitigate it. When you are older, and maybe looking of living off your rental income, you have the lower risk of paid off properties. When it comes time to pay off the properties, you get a big head start due to the mortgages having been slowly paid down while you were busy buying new properties. For example, if it is 10 years before you go into the pay off phase, the oldest mortgage would already have been paid down by almost 20% just from making your regular payments. Assuming modest inflation over those years, the value of the remaining balance would also have devalued by a decent amount, which is another factor in your favor.

Other possible middle grounds:

- Find financeable properties that can be bought cheaper due to needing a modest rehab (paint, carpet, and a few k of handyman fixes). You end up with a more money in the property, but your mortgage payment will end up as a smaller percentage of your rent, so less ongoing risk, and you can make a higher return if you do it right.

- A lot of the added risk of carrying a mortgage can be quantified. If a free and clear property is attractive because x amount of reserves would allow you to carry it for, say, 12 months without a tenant, then just figure out a larger amount of reserves you could carry that would let you go that long with a mortgage. If it works out that you still make a better return with financing even with the extra cash on the sidelines, then it may make sense. This doesn't mitigate all of the risk (e.g. cash flow going negative due to market changes) but it does reduce it.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

-Harry

Post: Before and After.... My First Flip!!!

Harry M.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 449
  • Votes 172

Hey Jacob, it looks absolutely amazing! Great job! Good luck on the sale.