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All Forum Posts by: Greg Scott

Greg Scott has started 4 posts and replied 48 times.

@Michael C. have used Zillow Payments and do they work well for you?

Funny you should mention that because Zillow ads for rentals is by far the best method now here in San DIego beating out Facebook and Craiglist in response. 

A while ago though I looked for Zillo payment reviews (maybe here) and found people talking about glitches and delays. This might not be current.

Originally posted by @Chad Kiel:

I kind of want to bring this back. I just bought my first house hack, and my business partner used Cozy about two years ago on his duplex to set up his tenants in one side and loved it. I went to sign up, and got directed to apartments.com. I am trying to valiantly to use, but my gosh it is TRASH. The create a lease section refuses to load. It doesn't allow you to list roommate searches. Having the applicant pay for application fees seems to be gone, as I am getting hounded to pay $99 and I'm not sure for what exactly, because the list of features and benefits is...behind the paywall. Very disappointing. 

 I'm having a similar problem. I just found out about Cozy and thought that it would be a big improvement over PayPal for rent payments. I used apartments.com and wanted only to set up payments. At some point I got a cryptic error message. Support told me I need to set up a lease. (But that doesn't make sense here - existing tenant)

I'm not reading a lot of good things here on apartments.com . Should I avoid it? 

Post: Facebook vs Google PPC

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But Facebook is growing on me. Once you get used to its weird systems it seems like you can get leads for much less money.

With Google PPC the clicks are so expensive. Someone clicks your ad. There goes $10 and nothing happens.

Its more satisfying to have Facebook "boosted posts" running. Leads come in and don't kill your budget in a single click. Plus you can add free content on groups that also generates leads at no cost.

If I had a massive budget Google PPC would probably be the way to go. But for the smaller budget I'm now a Facebook fan.

Thoughts?

@David Kelly
Just caught this interesting thread. So it seems to me what you are doing is selling leads - not really wholesaling.

By leaving it to the investor to handle the incoming lead you know he doesn't really have a deal. At least not yet.

I note some of the biggest PPC people are selling leads for up to $500 each. 

Post: Where is Joe Kaiser?

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I don't know but I suspect he is quietly living out an alternate career somewhere.

Post: Where is Joe Kaiser?

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Thanks Steve. That's old news (2009) but I guess it would explain why Joe Kaiser won't be doing RE business in WA. I'm curious what happened to him.

It's a shame. His writing style was unique. I didn't think of him as a scammer at the time. 

Post: Where is Joe Kaiser?

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I had some of Kaiser's stuff on foreclosures and investing. But I see nothing current. His old websites seem to be offline.

Did he leave the business entirely?

Good question on rentals though.

I do know that when I recently checked Zillow  DHS was a "HOT" area - no pun intended. (seller's market)

But I also know that people in the desert areas universally look down on DHS as a bad are with lots of problems. Since I was looking to wholesale I moved away from it figuring fix and flip investors wouldn't be very interested.


Post: Texting Prospective Sellers

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I develop my own fairly sophisticated software programs for direct mail, texting, emails and telemarketing. Everything comes with a hefty price in cash and time and my results have not been so good.

We did telemarketing for 3 day (24 hours), dialed, dialed, dialed and talked to only two people and the conversation had nothing to do with real estate. I couldn't see dialing for a 4th day.

We sent about 400,000 emails and even with software the management of the email lists requires a lot of time. We did not get 1 lead. What we did was illegal since email recipients have to Opt-In before you send an email and that law defeats the purpose to contact homeowners you don't know to discuss their foreclosure. About 25% of all emails are returned. So, if you don't want to re-send the bad emails and get busted for spamming it takes a lot of time to remove every bad email address. There is canned software that removes bad email addresses, but canned software does not work with my software.

We do 80,000 direct mail letters every year and the cost is about 80 cents per letter  (or $64,000 per year) when you consider the paper, envelope, label and stamp. The direct mail list requires maintenance every time a letter is returned so you can save money on the next mailing.

Almost every property I purchased for discounted prices was found by visiting real estate brokers' offices, telling them what I am looking for and every once in a while I hit a jackpot.

The next most-simple method was purchasing at live foreclosure auctions, but you need to be super careful to make sure you are getting a clear title.

I purchased a few properties from brokers who didn't know poop from Shinola like a $1.4 million 14-unit apartment building for $825,000. The broker I left a business card with called me on the phone and asked me how much a property was worth. He said he had a 14-unit property in Gardena California on Vermont Avenue for sale and I said, "you mean the property on the corner of 161st and Vermont" and he asked me how I knew. I told him I looked at so many properties I knew the property was the only 14-unit on Vermont Avenue in Gardena. I already knew the property was worth $1.4 million because properties were selling for $100k per door and the property was only 15-years old. So, I told him it was worth $800k and he called me the next day and said the seller would take $825k. I had a vacation house in the desert for sale for $300k. A woman offered me $200k cash. I took the $100k loss, but make $600k the same day by putting $20k in escrow for the 14-unit building.

Never ever listen to a broker's advice even if you madly love him because brokers are not you. They have their own fallacies and agendas. A 28-unit apartment building was for sale for $2,250,000. I told the broker to offer $1.9 million and he said the offer was too low and refused. I went to my  broker who I already purchased several properties from and he said the offer was too low and he refused, at first. Then, I told him I would go to another broker and he made the offer. The seller came back with $1,950,000 and I saved $300,000 by not listening to professionals' advice. Then I got $50,000 back for repairs and $18,000 for security deposits making the total savings and money coming into my pocket $368,000

Since this discussion is about looking for properties, I will say what I say almost every day. Don't be anxious to blow your wad of cash to buy a property. Learn to hold onto your cash until a goldmine pops up even if it takes several years to find a property because if you keep looking you will always find properties 10 times better than properties you found earlier.

My business model is to double my investment capital every year. For example, this is very possible when you put $200k down on a property that is worth $200k more than purchase price the day you close escrow, or within one year after you purchased the property at a discount, plus rental income plus appreciation.

How you find properties is important, but what properties you buy is more-critical to maximize your return.

Very interesting post Jack thanks for sharing. I like what you shared about using RE brokers.

From my experience: Even with modest dialing I can hit about 1 owner every 2 hours, but it is tedious. But then that verified phone # goes into the CRM for much easier follow-up.

I agree on email - it's almost worthless. 

How did texting go for you? I find it like door knocking. You get a large variance of responses from friendly to angry.

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @David Avery:

Wholesalers dropping like flies in Phoenix,  ask a wholesaler about ethic's!!!!

There will be laws against this action shorlty.

Get this one,   I used to have contest with an agent to see how many of their sign we could gather in a week!!

I should get a vote from everyone of you for doing that!!!

you guys are the reason they now put them 15 feet up on the pole  :)    and or buy bus bench advertising or buy radio spots or buy the HWY signs  and TV spots .. i have seen all of those lately.. 

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Wow. I wonder if "open house" signs are strictly legal on the corners where I see them. But in any case agents taking down wholesaler signs seems like bad karma.