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All Forum Posts by: Gary L Wallman

Gary L Wallman has started 3 posts and replied 415 times.

Post: flip rehabs/returns - how do i compete?

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Ronald Ty:
Quote from @Gary L Wallman:
Quote from @Ronald Ty:

i am having trouble competing with other flippers. i try to do things the right way (pull permits) & use contractors/hvac/plumbing/electricians who, i feel, give me the best bang for the buck. and we all know the cost of things, and labor, have risen dramatically lately.

i pay cash for my homes and hit the sales price i anticipated beforehand.  

the problem i am having is getting my rehab numbers in line. i feel other investors are doing rentals or doing some/all the work themselves and/or not pulling permits. 

i should also mention, i do not need to flip. i can live off the returns i get in my bond/stock portfolio (w/ a lot less taxes paid). however, i like to flip 1x/year to keep me from getting bored and get that satisfaction from "working" (i retired 4 years ago). 

and no, i am not interested in doing rentals. :)


 Scott,

These from the ground up flips, particularly with structural changes, are what nightmares are made of. Especially true if your using contractors who likes to charge the way yours do. I have done many higher end finishes in flips and your numbers shock me. Not to say your wrong, inflation in building materials has been crazy.

After doing dozens of flips, I now avoid any of these rebuild from the ground up stuff. If I can't make it appealing by kitchen, bath, paint, flooring and some fancy lighting, I don't do it. Too expensive and way too risky for the dollars expended, to the return.

I've also learned most buyers look at fit and finish more than the houses bones.

Gary

Thanks for the feedback. Agree to disagree. Dont feel I'm being ripped off. And creating value raises the arv. Spend $ to make $. I have done very few cosmetic flips. I haven't really ever gotten crazy returns. It's better just to put it in a stock mutual fund Roth Ira and call it a day.  Everybody thinks it's easy. I'm here to tell the newbs it is not. Again, this is for educational purposes. 

 Not disagreeing with your idea that it takes money to make money. Just disagreeing with your rate of return, which, I believe you were concerned about in your post. I've learned, after being in the flip business and the car business, I can't compete with the car manufacturer or the Real Estate developer. If I have to rebuild a car or a house, it's usually a loser for me. Real money is made by making an ugly house look pretty, not leveling garage floors. IMHO.

Respectfully,

Gary 

Post: flip rehabs/returns - how do i compete?

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Ronald Ty:

i am having trouble competing with other flippers. i try to do things the right way (pull permits) & use contractors/hvac/plumbing/electricians who, i feel, give me the best bang for the buck. and we all know the cost of things, and labor, have risen dramatically lately.

i pay cash for my homes and hit the sales price i anticipated beforehand.  

the problem i am having is getting my rehab numbers in line. i feel other investors are doing rentals or doing some/all the work themselves and/or not pulling permits. 

i should also mention, i do not need to flip. i can live off the returns i get in my bond/stock portfolio (w/ a lot less taxes paid). however, i like to flip 1x/year to keep me from getting bored and get that satisfaction from "working" (i retired 4 years ago). 

and no, i am not interested in doing rentals. :)


 Scott,

These from the ground up flips, particularly with structural changes, are what nightmares are made of. Especially true if your using contractors who likes to charge the way yours do. I have done many higher end finishes in flips and your numbers shock me. Not to say your wrong, inflation in building materials has been crazy.

After doing dozens of flips, I now avoid any of these rebuild from the ground up stuff. If I can't make it appealing by kitchen, bath, paint, flooring and some fancy lighting, I don't do it. Too expensive and way too risky for the dollars expended, to the return.

I've also learned most buyers look at fit and finish more than the houses bones.

Gary

Post: Investing In PCB

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Charles Shealy:

Thinking of of investing in a condo in Panama City Beach. Any advice about the market trends in the area? Should I put the property in a FL land trust or claim the poperty under an LLC and pay to operate in FL?


 Had a Gulf front house I sold 4 years ago for 1.1 million. It was my personal vacation home and not a rental. After the local government killed Spring break, I no longer enjoyed the place. Vacationers were great, locals not so much. No more young folks to keep me feeling young. LOL

Since I am a rental investor up north, I seriously considered keeping the home as an STR. After analyzing the deal, it seemed to me that after management fees, uncontrollable raises in insurance, taxes and upkeep/capex, I could do better redeploying my equity in LTR's at home in Ohio.

The property value stayed the same for a couple of years, the doubled in the next. In hindsight, maybe I should not have sold. At the current value however, the place is a sure rental loser. Beachfront upkeep is truly unbelievable. I had to replace my grills and outdoor furniture continually. Even aluminum and wicker only lasted a year.

So, be very careful what you invest in and how much you pay. Also, be aware, many condos have deferred maintenance issues that could eat you up in assessments.

Gary

Post: Tenants left house with bad dog urine smell. Fix?

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Kashif Ali Khan:
Quote from @Terrell Garren:

Unfortunately, it will get worse with warmer weather.  

Remove floor; mop subfloor with water/bleach mix, let dry, 2 coats of Kiltz, 2 coats of poly sealant.

Thank you so much. Do I also need to use 2 coats of poly sealant in addition to 2 coats of Kiltz? Just Kiltz won't do?
Also,  which type of Kiltz will work the best?

 In my experience, (150+ doors) only oil based Kilz works well enough to cover and seal in the odor. It is much more difficult to work with then traditional Kilz, but no poly is necessary after.

Gary

Post: Strategy for tenant damaged rental. What would you do?

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Gary L Wallman:
Quote from @Michael C.:
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

You aren't cut out for being a California Landlord. Find a good REALTOR and follow their advice of either selling fast and easy or going through renovations and then selling. It shouldn't be hard to get a personal loan to cover expenses until it sells.


 I'm not a california landlord(my property is in GA), I actually don't consider myself a landlord at all. Just happen to have a couple investment properties. So you are right. Everybody has their thing.I'm also not cut out to be a bald, overweight, loser who's whole identity revolves around his work either. But you got that covered. Cheers.


 Guys,

Way too harsh, IMO no one is cut out to be a California landlord. Laws are way too skewed towards tenants.

Personal attacks are never appropriate.

Maybe shake hands on this one.

Respectfully,

Gary

Post: Potential STR Purchase in Pigeon Forge

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Katie Hinch:

Hi all! 

Looking for some opinions on this property as our next STR investment. Currently have one other property, but this would be our first in the TN area. https://www.zillow.com/homedet...

Any/all input would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Katie


 350K? For a shed? The world truly has gone insane!

Gary

Post: can't find a tenant

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Audrey Peltier:
Quote from @Gary L Wallman:
Quote from @Audrey Peltier:

Hi all!

This is my first time posting something here. I'm kind a newbie. I bought my first and only rental 2 years ago in Cleveland (I live in CA). The former PM found a tenant quickly. They left in December (without paying the last month). I had to spend a lot of money to renovate the house and the garage was totally destroyed. 

The new PM can't find a new tenant (32 days on the market and 216 view but no application) and right now I am hemorrhaging money.

It is a single family home - 3 bd/1ba - 993 sqft - with backyard. $915/month

Do you have any advice?


 Decent house with the exception of the horrible look of patched-in siding on the rear of the house, pictured no less. Garage is also a mess. I would re-side the back of the home and clean up the garage.

Pricing seems fine compared to others in the area but the listing is very poorly done. I'm always amazed at how many property owners and managers have no idea on how to write an add. It's supposed to help you sell your property to perspective renters, not scare them away. Why would any property manager list every utility the tenant has to pay separately? Just say utilities not included. What's with the $129 fee and $30 monthly tenant benefit package? You're trying to rent a C class home, not a room at the Plaza. Get rid of all the legalese and junk fees and you'll be fine.

IMHO,

Gary


 The garage is being renovated entirely. 

I tried to make the PM change the ads but they won't move. 

Look at their answer:

All of our rental listings are listed in the same format, to make prospective tenants truly aware of all costs, processess, etc that go into securing a home. We have never had an issue or complaint with the set-up of our marketing ads. I apologize for the inconvenience, but I'm unable to adjust the listing. We have also found that most tenants appreciate the full transparency, so they can fully get a breakdown of costs before viewing a unit/signing a lease.


 I'd tell your PM "You may not be able to change your ad, but I can change you". Then do it.

Gary

Post: can't find a tenant

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Audrey Peltier:

Hi all!

This is my first time posting something here. I'm kind a newbie. I bought my first and only rental 2 years ago in Cleveland (I live in CA). The former PM found a tenant quickly. They left in December (without paying the last month). I had to spend a lot of money to renovate the house and the garage was totally destroyed. 

The new PM can't find a new tenant (32 days on the market and 216 view but no application) and right now I am hemorrhaging money.

It is a single family home - 3 bd/1ba - 993 sqft - with backyard. $915/month

Do you have any advice?


 Decent house with the exception of the horrible look of patched-in siding on the rear of the house, pictured no less. Garage is also a mess. I would re-side the back of the home and clean up the garage.

Pricing seems fine compared to others in the area but the listing is very poorly done. I'm always amazed at how many property owners and managers have no idea on how to write an add. It's supposed to help you sell your property to perspective renters, not scare them away. Why would any property manager list every utility the tenant has to pay separately? Just say utilities not included. What's with the $129 fee and $30 monthly tenant benefit package? You're trying to rent a C class home, not a room at the Plaza. Get rid of all the legalese and junk fees and you'll be fine.

IMHO,

Gary

Post: Drowning in Inherited Rentals

Gary L WallmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Beavercreek OH
  • Posts 422
  • Votes 972
Quote from @Ashley N Tauriac:

I am new to rental properties and inherited 4 small single-bed rental homes in 2021 when my dad passed away. They've all being rented for the last 10 years or so with no increases to rent. They're all in a small town where property values and sales are way down as people are moving out to find jobs. Given the mortgage on the properties, during 2022, I was $1500 negative on the business. Increasing rents by $200-$300 would obviously cost me the renters and I might not be able to replace them. In addition, my dad could easily do renovations himself, but I live 13hrs away and do not have this expertise, and every property needs 2-3 major updates like roofing, fencing, or foundation repairs that I can't even get quotes on since evidently no one wants to work anymore. 

I have thought about selling them, but real estate agents have mentioned this would be difficult, so I feel like this would net nothing between the taxes and mortgages. I have thought about 1031, but since these properties are all worth less than $100,000 and I live in Nashville, I will not be able to find a property nearby at that amount. Looking for any kind of suggestions or advice, since I don't see any great options at this point. Thanks!


 Sell them. There should be no capital gains tax. Inherited property is valued on a "stepped up basis" which is the value at the time of your dad's death.

Sorry for the loss of your father.

Gary