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All Forum Posts by: Robert Freeborn

Robert Freeborn has started 38 posts and replied 401 times.

Post: Floral Business and Underlying land up for development

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@Joel Owens

I thought about that, but I was hoping to pick some brains on other financing means here first. That will be my next stop though!

Post: Floral Business and Underlying land up for development

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

Hi BP! I’m an agent and Investor up in Bellingham, Washington. I recently had another agent approach me with an off-market property, which I’ll explain below.

I think this is an amazing deal. I’d LOVE to do this myself, but I’m not sure how to approach it.

So, ultimately, I’m looking advice for how to get into this deal myself. 

The deal consists of the following.

A 4-acre lot with a 35-year-old floral business on it. The business has over 600 repeat clients (businesses) and generates over 1mil in revenue a year. Business has been used to pay the existing mortgage, on the land and the small house on the property, of approx $4,800 a month. The business has about 10 employees and a general manager in place who would stay. There is potential room to grow. The business generates an additional $75,000 a year in profit for the owner. Business can be moved to a new location as the greenhouses are able to be relocated (after the development option is green-lighted, for example.)

There is also an exclusive option to buy the next-door lot, 4.4 acres, for $400,000.

The zoning, SFT Medium density, is zoned for up to 6 units an acre. Possibly more, but that might be a challenge.

Homes in the area sell for 399-499. Average home price in Bellingham is in the mid 400s, and the homes at these prices go very quickly.

The owner might be willing to consider owner financing, but I currently have available no money for a down payment (tied up in 3 other properties right now)

So, who has innovative recommendations for how to get into this? 

Post: Sub-contractor accountability contracts

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@Chris K. Just saw this reply. Thank you. I didn’t know about that system. I’ll have to see if I can apply any practices from it.

Post: Business and development lot for sale: how do I finance it?

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@Robert Freeborn bump because I posted this late at night!

Post: Business and development lot for sale: how do I finance it?

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

(Mods, I debated putting this into the commercial forum, but decided on here because I’m looking for innovative strategies to get into it. Please move if you feel it appropriate to do so. )

Hi BO! I’m an agent and Investor up in Bellingham, Washington. I recently had another investor approach me with an off market property, which I’ll explain below.

I think this is an amazing deal. I sent it to another investor friend who was interested, but decided to pass. I’d LOVE to do this myself, but I’m not sure how to approach it.

So, ultimately, I’m looking for one of three things from this post. 1) advice for how to get into this deal myself. 2) someone who may want it themselves. 3) someone who might want to partner with me on it.

The deal consists of the following.

A 4 acre lot with a 35 year old floral business on it. The business has over 600 repeat clients (businesses) and generates 1mil in revenue a year. Business has been used to pay the existing mortgage, on the land and the small house on the property, of approx $4,800 a month. The business has about 10 employees and a general manager in place. There is potential room to grow. The business generates an additional $75,000 a year in profit for the owner. Business can be moved to a new location as the greenhouses are able to be relocated (after the development option is green lighted, for example.)

There is also an exclusive option to buy the next door lot, 4.4 acres, for $400,000.

The zoning, SFT Medium density, is zoned for up to 6 units an acre. Possibly more, but that might be a challenge.

Homes in the area sell for 399-499. Average home price in Bellingham is in the mid 400s, and the prices go very quickly.

Owner might be willing to consider owner financing, but I currently have no money for a down payment, and even if I did I wouldn’t have 20-40% that a commercial loan might require.

So, who has innovated recommendations for how to get into this? Who is interested in it? Who would be interested in a partnership of some sort?

Post: Analysis of a deal, what % to use?

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@B Harrison while a Heloc can be a GREAT idea (seriously!) some banks won’t do it till it’s seasoned for 6 months. So a combo of % of rent till the heloc is closed could be a good mix.

Post: New agent in Tacoma, Washington

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@Inessa Stysis welcome! It’s fun working with investors and you’re in a great area. Good luck!

Post: Washington State has a new option to sell homes!

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@Linda Garcia all things in real estate, especially commission, are negotiable. Shoot me a message sometime and I’d be happy to chat with you about it.

I’ve seen Faira. My issue with them is that buyers have to pay a fee to submit an offer. Kinda discouraging for offers, no?

Post: Washington State has a new option to sell homes!

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@Jay Hinrichs how do they not have to pay excise tax if they take ownership and the buy has to them biu back from them?

Post: Sub-contractor accountability contracts

Robert FreebornPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bellingham, WA
  • Posts 427
  • Votes 182

@George W.

On the flip I’m talking about it was a GC (but digging deeper, we found the sub also had a reputation for it. )

I’m GCing my next project myself. I’m doing material payments up front with final payments after work is complete. (Or a three step payment plan).