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All Forum Posts by: Duncan Taylor

Duncan Taylor has started 14 posts and replied 739 times.

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:
Key aspect of giving free advice or charging for it, especially in investing matters:

"What I would do is......but, you're not me, you decide what sounds best"

You might say what you'd offer, but giving a range is better and working through the deal. Always make them decide, with guidance but not instruction as "do this". Not only can you get mud on your face you could lose money for someone, it happens, so responsibility for decisions is theirs, not mine.

It forces them to think, my job is to calm the fears and inform as to general and prudent practice.

Start telling someone to put 20K down and then they find they could have gotten it at 10K won't work very long, if it got to involved they might look to you for the errors of their ways too.

Keep yourself out of the deal.......or get involved and partner and share the risk and reward, otherwise stay out of it. :)

Even in the general business and finances areas I've never given recipes or step by step do this then that. It is always a brainstorming give and take, try this, try that, talk to this person to see what they would do, type of discussion.

Gurus, sketchy coaches and such claim to have the magic answers. Mentors, true mentors, will help you find YOUR magic answer.

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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Originally posted by @Michael Jobe:
@Duncan Taylor Just as I was preparing to post my hunt for a mentor I saw your post. I salute you for what you're doing and consider myself one of those people who always pay it forward. I will undoubtedly follow your lead when I get to that stage in my career where I've experienced enough to pass along the knowledge. I had also never heard of score.org until reading this post so thank you for that...it will be a tremendous help for me getting my investing business off the ground.

You know, I hadn't even thought of that!

There are some great resources there for business in general. Areas for financing, record keeping... the list is long. They also have great workshops that are often free or very low cost. These are all meat, no upsell, no bait and switch.

I would encourage anyone who hits a snag with you business to check them out and request a mentor in your area or by phone.

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:
Just found the post Duncan. I've been doing it off and on for years. I have several mentees, I'm on call and 2 right now personally involved and basically the same deal, I don't do it for them and I don't fund or manage or enter into any deal with them. If you do, they don't learn how to get there. I have requirements as well, must have a decent job or ability to at least have some skin and costs, must begin with the basics of RE, not guru strategies, demonstrate the ability to grasp conceptual ideas as well as technical matters and lastly, must have an ethical attitude. Oh, and they have to be local too.

So, welcome to the ranks of those paying it back. :)

I see some things I need to add to our ground rules.

Mentoring a stranger in this area is new to me. I've done a lot of mentoring in general business and finance areas through score.org.

But outside of family and very close friends I have not done it in the area of investing.

I'm really looking forward to it!

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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No one? You are making me feel like Sisyphus from Greek mythology.

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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Originally posted by @Ophelia Nicholson:
I think its great what you are doing- I don't know if most have had the experience that I have- I'm open to mentoring someone but I will meet someone on the board and say hey my number is in my signature- Feel free to call me but just never hear from them and I go hmm okay maybe they weren't that serious.
I think I've gotten an actual phone call from like 2 people on the board in my area and both of them I talk to pretty regularly not in a mentorship capacity but more to bounce ideas off each other.

I think some newbies are afraid to reach out because they feel they will get rejected or someone won't want to spend the time to help them get started.

Ophelia,

We cross posted.

Bouncing ideas is a form of mentoring. I bet they appreciate it.

So, what do we do as mentors and potential mentors to convince the newbies we are really ready to help?

Ultimately the only proof is in the doing.

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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Bump.

Come on, there has to some older guys and gals out there, like me, I'm in my 60s. Someone who has succeeded and reached the point in their lives where they have the time to mentor a newbie without charging them.

Post: I Agreed To Be A Mentor To Someone From Here Today - Will You?

Duncan TaylorPosted
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I updated my score.org profile because of my move and as I was doing it I was called to take a step and a stand. I have complained about the sketchy coaches, gurus and such but haven't done anything about it.

Today, I realized if everyone who has the experience and financial ability each agreed to help just one person get their first deal AND DO IT AT NO COST like Score does we could really make a difference.

So, I agreed to mentor someone who contact me awhile ago. We met this evening for dinner at the club and we set down some basic ground rules. I will leave it up to them to disclose or not who my new mentee is.

I won't charge him for my time. I won't fund any of his deals. I won't do the work for him. We meet each Wednesday evening at the club. Etc. We discussed the ground rules, shook hands, had dinner and got to work.

I will post more about our first encounter on my blog as soon as it is back up. The technicians are looking at it now.

Now, I know many here have plenty of experience but are busy building their holdings and managing their day to day business.

But, I know there HAS to be others like me here. People who have the experience and the financial ability to NOT CHARGE for their time to help the newbies get started.

So, who else will step up and give a hand up to a newbie?

Post: Cost Segregation

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If you do, you should expect a very aggressive challenge by the IRS.

At $350K of combined value it might be worth the cost to get a segregation study if you intend to keep these a long time. If you do end up segregating, keep good records to prevent having to recapture the depreciation of the reclassified assets. You will need to justify the sale price of those assets to the new owner at their then current value on your books.

It is a big hassle to do this, but it can make you a lot of money if you do it right and are careful in your record keeping.

Post: Business Structuring

Duncan TaylorPosted
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Why didn't you ask your attorney those questions?

Post: Buy and hold in perpetuity vs exit plan

Duncan TaylorPosted
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As for the obsolescence issue there are ways around it.

For example, a few years ago I placed some SFHs, duplexes and other small multifamily properties in a GRAT for my kids. Once the transfer was complete and the dust settled, the trust administrator (not me, by the way) coordinated a 1031 exchange of all but one of those properties into a 10 story office building in Overland Park, KS which was later fully rented by Sprint.

With 1031 exchanges, 'keeping forever' takes on a whole new meaning.