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All Forum Posts by: Mark J.

Mark J. has started 33 posts and replied 162 times.

Post: Tax Question - How to Report Real Estate Sale?

Mark J.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 169
  • Votes 164

Just received a notice from the IRS stating "your 2014 tax return doesn't match the information we have on file." There were several small items, but the big one was the sale of my primary residence. Since I owned the home for 10 years, as I understood it, I didn't have to pay taxes on the proceeds so I didn't file any paperwork. (Hey, it was my first house. I didn't know!!) ;)

I plan to file a 1099-S "Proceeds from Real Estate Transactions". So my question is since the form asks for "Gross Proceeds" (i.e. final sales price), do I need to, and if so where, show the net proceeds (gross proceeds minus the existing mortgage). The net amount was less than $250K.

Would it be best to refile or just submit the forms that were missing?

Many thanks in advance!

Post: What % off list price do you generall bid on REO's

Mark J.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 169
  • Votes 164

@Phil Bach is absolutely correct when he says REOs are going above & beyond MLS retail prices. In my newbie opinion, at least in the areas that I monitor, in order for a flipper to make good returns now, the MLS retail price of homes will need to continue to appreciate another 15-20% within the next 12 months. As many areas have already seen that level of appreciation in the last 12 months, a combined 30-40% rise in MLS retail prices within 24 months seems to me at least unsustainable. The spread / margin that flippers and wholesalers required has shrunk considerably-- i.e. NO meat on the bone. That about sums up the situation right now, in my newbie opinion.

I primarily focus on purchasing foreclosure properties from the Hillsborough County auction. Let me give you an example of the current situation which may illustrate another issue that may be impacting the Tampa market which hasn't been discussed yet-- fraud. 

Last week, a property came up for auction that had been vacant for more than three years and needed a complete gut (conservative reno budget of $30K). I knew the property very well and when running my numbers, the most I could pay for the property was $70K, maybe $75K absolute tops-- because I thought the property had great potential as long-term rental (not as a flip). When the property came up for auction, I was quickly outbid and the property sold for just over $100,000. 

Now to make sense of how crazy that is, a few weeks earlier, I purchased a similar home, less than one mile away, that had already been completely renovated top to bottom with all new appliances for $99K. And this was a retail purchase right off the MLS.

So, why would someone purchase a property for $100K that needed a $30K renovation and was maybe worth $110K-120K  as a flip or only command $1250 per month as a rental? 

That's a good question. Phil Bach suggests it's because people don't know their numbers. There may be some truth to that, but people who are consistently plunking down $100K in cash didn't get that money by being financially illiterate. The buyer of this particular property is well-known local flip/wholesaling company that buys and sells millions of dollars in property. SOOOOOOO--- why would a "pro" dramatically over-pay?

I asked that question to another very experienced flipper/wholesaler in the area. His response was that money is being washed and parked. He said he sees the same thing happening in other markets around Florida (particularly South Florida) where foreclosure properties are going 40-50% over retail. 

Is he right? I don't know. He was just offering an opinion. But is does provide at least some basis for what seems to be "irrational" market behavior.

@Joshua Sclafani - Thanks Joshua! Happy to help with any questions you may have.

@Toni Murray - I do not have my realtor's license. It's not necessary for any of the buying or selling that I've done so far. And you're right on-- there are many great option available to check references (Angie's List, Yelp, Google, going to local REI meetings, sites like BP, etc.).

Although, I'd be tempted to chalk it up to a "rookie" mistake, I've certainly heard and read enough stories from experienced RE investors who also suffered loses. But, I definitely think my BS-meter is much more accurate than when I started and I'm also very hands-on when it comes to getting estimates, discussing scope of work, negotiating price, and inspecting work. A big mistake newbies make is to make decisions based on price-- getting the least expensive guy to do the work. While there may be an occasion or two you may get good work at a below-market price, more often than not you wind-up paying more in the end. So, I now apply the same philosophy that I use when buying tools-- buy the BEST that you can afford--- even if you can't afford it. In the long run, the investment in good tools and good trades guys pays off.

Thanks JD!

If anyone's curious what the duplex looks like, check out the pics on Zillow:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3824-Valley-Tree-Dr-Tampa-FL-33610/82037655_zpid/?

My current buy-and-hold rentals are shown on my website: AttenexProperties.com

Well, hello there. It's been some time since I've been actively posting, so I thought I'd drop-in and update y'all on my experiences over the last two years.

First, man I'm exhausted. But also exhilarated! Seeing the culmination of so much work and effort and learning, learning, learning is truly the reward of life as a part-time REI.

I moved from Seattle, WA to Tampa, FL in June 2014. The Seattle housing market was (and continues to be) very strong and I used the capital from that sale to begin my REI adventures. My goal was to be a long-term buy-and-hold investor (using the BRRRR strategy) of multi-family and single family properties (no condos or townhouses). I'd also take advantage of opportunistic fix-and-flips (at least one per year) to build capital for additional long-term acquisitions.

This will be a LONG POST so I think I'll break it up into multiple parts over the next few days.

PROJECT #1: My first project was a 6/4 duplex in Tampa that was REO, vacant for three years, which (on the surface) seemed to need only an extensive interior reno. Prices at that time were very low (and have since skyrocketed) and I purchased it for $44,900. Yes, a 6/4 duplex, 2200 sqft, in a decent neighborhood, close to shopping, transit, and highways for $44,900 that had walls, a decent roof and a nice front and backyard.

How did I do this? Focus and speed. I had multiple alerts setup on Redfin, Zillow, and HomeSnap. Within one hour of receiving the new listing alert from Redfin, I had a tour with the selling agent and within an hour after that, I had a full-price, all cash, no contingencies, no inspection offer to the agent. Mine was the first offer received. Unusual for an REO, there wasn't the typical 10-day offer period where the bank collects offers and then on the eleventh day comes back asking for a final round of "highest and best" offers. I got lucky since this bank (H&R Block) just accepted the first full price offer they received, which was mine! YAY!!

After closing, I began searching for a General Contractor and started on some basic demo (removing old appliances, cabinets, toilets, rugs, etc.). After several weeks of interviewing and receiving bids from contractors, I select one. This turned-out to be a terrible choice. Yes, he was unlicensed, but he seemed to have experience and was eager to build his business (had only completed a few renos before mine). He was the husband of the woman who ran the daycare where my son went to school so I knew he was well-established in the area, was young and eager, professional (in communication, bid, and company appearance) and very personable.

OK-- looking back at my post so far, I'm realizing fully describing everything that occurred on that project would take a VERY long post. So, I'm going to abridge with a list:

  • The original reno budget was $35K. The final reno budget ballooned to $80K.
  • I acquired two Personal Lines of Credit (PLOC). I'd strongly encourage any investor to explore this option. These are unsecured loans, basically like a big credit card (at a low interest rate). I used my own cash to buy the property and then used the PLOC to fund the renovation.
  • The GC stopped showing up after three months. Everything was normal as far as I could tell. Met with him on a Friday afternoon to go over the next day's work and that was it. He was totally unreachable after that. Like he had fallen off the earth. I had paid ahead by about $5K and also paid for materials which were never delivered or installed. All tolled, he disappeared with about $10K. (there's a very long story here, but whew...not getting into it.) Lesson, buy materials and have them on site. Try not to pay ahead, and if necessary, keep it to a minimum.
  • For the next three months, I worked every 2-3 hours every night after work and 8-10 hours per day on the weekends to ensure this project got completed. I would NOT let it fail. I would NEVER let this bad situation deter me. I'm just not built for GIVING UP.
  • I hired and fired more trades guy than I can count. At first I felt bad about it, but by the end of the reno, I became a much better negotiator, communicator, and would not accept any excuses for work that did not meet my expectations. By the end of the reno, if I didn't like what I saw after the first few hours, I paid them for their work that day and showed them the door. Done. Next!! Never be intimidated or let yourself be coerced into work or a quality of work, you're uncomfortable with. Remain firm and fair. Part of the initial investment for a newbie REI (especially since I was new to Tampa) is going through a bunch of trades guys. You'll be over-charged. You'll have to pay for work two or three times until it gets done right. They're all nice in the beginning. They'll tell you how bad the other guy's work was done. They'll all tell you how much experience they have. Most of it is complete ********. It's an expensive education and just a process of elimination you have to go through. But, once you find a few good guys, NEVER let them go!! ;) Pay them well. Let them know how much you appreciate their work and, as much as possible, keep finding work for them to do. They'll also know other good trades guys and then you'll be on your way.
  • Although the project began as a buy-and-hold, by the end of the reno I had sunk too much money in it and needed to get out or I wouldn't be able to acquire additional properties for six months or more . So, I did a For Sale By Owner (FSBO) for the first time. That was a bit nerve-wracking, but the key lesson I learned was that the TITLE AGENCY does 90% of the work. Find a GREAT title agency!! My job was to market and show the property, which I'm good at. Within one month, I nearly a full-price offer and, in spite of all the problems, still made a profit of $30K.

Well, OK-- that's just a bit about Project #1. I still have to talk about (and not in as much detail) about Projects 2, 3, & 4.

So, in two years, I've successfully completed two FLIPS and currently have two long-term HOLD rentals with paying tenants in place. Cash flow is excellent on both rentals, $500 on one and $600 on the other. Tenants are excellent. I've learned a TREMENDOUS amount over the last two years, and there's SO MUCH more to learn...and that's what makes being a newbie REI absolutely and completely engrossing, frustrating, and rewarding (personally and financially).

Happy REI-ing...

Mark...

Post: Hello from Tampa, Florida!

Mark J.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 169
  • Votes 164

Hi Robert! Welcome to BP. Please add me to your mailing list (email in profile). If you'd ever like to get together for some REI chat, I live in Brandon also!

Post: Mortgage Comparison Spreadsheet

Mark J.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 169
  • Votes 164

Hello Neighbors-- I'm shopping around for mortgages. Does anyone have an Excel spreadsheet they use to analyze different loan offers? I checked FilePlace, but didn't run across anything similar.

Thanks!

Thanks @Account Closed!!

Looking to do a 75% LTV cash-out refi on two $100-$110K SF rental properties. Can any recommend a good mortgage broker in the Tampa area?

Many thanks in advance!

Mark...