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All Forum Posts by: Eric P.

Eric P. has started 55 posts and replied 461 times.

Post: STR tax implications and mitigating tax impact

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 470
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Originally posted by @Bryce Bender:

Hi all,

I have been using my basement as an STR house hack for about 2 months, currently I'm only listing on AirBnB. It's done much better than I predicted (due to the summer months probably) and I want to ensure I have all my ducks in a row for next year's taxes so I don't get blindsided.

As a live in STR (where I rent out a portion of my home) would making an LLC help in mitigating tax impact? I've kept a detailed record of start-up expenses for write offs, but will the AirBnB income be taxed at the end of the year based off of my income tax bracket? (Most of my income is W2 income, about 33% above the local median).

Please share your STR tax mitigation stategies, to make this a viable investment strategy. The more details you can share, the better!

The internet is a great place to start for tax advice but when you get serious I'd highly recommend you not only consult a CPA, but one who specifically specializes in REI such as @Daniel Hyman

Post: AirBnb starting question

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @Ken Latchers:

@ScottSmith

It is illegal to pursue any short-term rental activity in a government-backed mortgage. Fannie Mae, FHA, USDA, etc

 I was curious about this so I started googling. It appears that government-backed mortgage entities such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now permit short-term rentals as of April 2019, so long as you don't turn the property over to a management company or timeshare company.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/second-home-rider-rewrite-11555599871

https://therealdeal.com/2019/04/19/fannie-mae-issues-ruling-on-renting-newly-purchased-second-homes-on-airbnb/amp/

Post: AirBnb starting question

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Originally posted by @Tyler Wotherspoon:

Hey everyone, I am looking to buy a house for short term rental in Oregon and wanted to know if I should start a LLC for it or just buy it without one? I know there is tax benefits with having it under one but can I transfer it over to an LLC after purchasing the home?

Your help is greatly appreciated! 

This question comes up a lot & I get the feeling that some folks don't really understand how an LLC works. The LLC isn't to protect your rental property (that's what insurance is for); the LLC is to isolate your property so if you get sued no one can touch your OTHER assets that aren't in the LLC.

If you have valuable other assets (bank accts, stocks, bonds, brokerage accts, 401k, other houses, etc), then it's worth considering an LLC for the rental property so if something happens & you're sued, the lawsuit is isolated to just the LLC & not your personal assets (if done properly). Also, I'm not a lawyer & there are certainly some nuances beyond this that a good lawyer can tell you - this is just a high-level overview

Originally posted by @Paul Sandhu:

Just got a phone call from a realtor.  She used to cut my hair 10 years ago, before becoming a real estate agent.  She had 5 guys that were looking for a furnished house to stay in while they do there work here in town.  They are going to be here about a year.  My houses that sleep 5 people comfortably go for $1000/week.  We are going to show it to them tonight.

What kind of commission do you think the realtor is going to charge me?  Normally, if a current tenant or other person refers a renter to me, I give them a commission.  $50, $75 or $100; depending on the size of the house.  The 5 person house is a $100 commission house.

It all depends how much value she’s providing to you! If you have a ton of demand & don’t need her help, throw her a hundo and be done.

If you want her help in finding you tenants & keeping your places occupied, make it worth her while!

(Of course, where you live, be careful - sounds like that $100 is enough for her to make a downpayment on a house of her own & become your Airbnb rival ;)

Originally posted by @Villy Ellinger:

I would love to get opinions/feedback from the forum.

My take: In long-term rentals you are selling accommodations. So prior rental rates are a very valid projection of what the market can bear. In vacation rentals you are selling an "experience". So it's not just about the "horse" but also about the "jockey" and prior rental history of the particular property is not as important as the rental history and potential of similar/comparable properties that are  actually managed and marketed successfully.

What happened: I recently had a buyer client who was interested in a particular condo on the beach as an investment property. The unit is 2b/2b, sleeps 6, in a complex of 80 other units. Location is very good and the price for that unit was lower than the others. I am personally aware of similar units in that particular complex grossing $45K to $50K per year. The reported rental history for this one was around $29K per year for the past three year. The client decided that made it a "bad investment". I did some research after that and found out the following: the unit was dated (bad decor), managed and advertised by the owner on VRBO. The listing had blurry pictures, the owner had only 70% response rate and a number of low reviews stating the unit was dirty. (To which he made some rather snide responses of "it's summer and sand gets everywhere"). In my opinion the rental history in this case is irrelevant. What is relevant is the "rental potential". My client (who has never owned or managed vacation rentals) disagreed with my opinion and decided to pass on the property despite the attractive price. She had initially said she wanted to find "a deal". In my opinion this was "a deal", lol. 

What do you think? What is your take on vacation rental projections?

 It sounds like your client is naive & missed out on a great deal! When valuing STRs, I focus not on that property’s actuals but on how similar well-performing properties nearby are performing

Originally posted by @Matt Jones:

I am trying to calculate potential returns on a short term investment property, specifically a Pensacola Beach rental. I’ve nailed down rates per season but I’m not sure how to figure occupancy.

For those of you that own a STR in a beach town, how many days per year do you have renters? If you really know your numbers, how many days for each season.

If you pay $40 on AirDNA for the Gulf Breeze data set, you’ll get your answer to this question plus way more (Pensacola beach falls into Gulf Breeze on their map). Personally I’d consider it the best $40 you can spend given the magnitude of an investment like this :)

AirDNA will also help you validate the rates you’ve come up with.

Post: 15 Year vs. 30 Year Mortgages on Rental Properties

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 470
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Originally posted by @Alexander Lang:

Hi @Ryan Denman, I align with @Jake S. in seeking longer term lower initial down payment as well. 

I am after monthly cashflow so that makes sense in my mind by keeping the mortgage payment as low as I can, but if you can afford a 15yr and still have a good cashflow each month then that sounds ideal to me!

 I agree with Jake & Alexander. Also remember 2 things: 1) principal payments on loans aren’t tax-deductible, 2) interest deduction is a huge offset to your rental income for tax purposes. If you pay down too aggressively (15 yrs instead of 30 so you’re paying more in principal & less in interest) you could be in an odd situation where you owe more in taxes than your positive cashflow each month so you have to come out of pocket each month to cover your taxes. Not ideal!

Example: Let’s say your net monthly income before principal pymt is $1k. You then make a $1k principal pymt on your loan as required by the 15-yr paydown schedule. You now have $0 cashflow for the month but you owe taxes on that $1k amount! Just an overly simplistic example to illustrate the point.

Post: How good is JLA Property Management in the Poconos

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
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Not sure about JLA but here’s an interesting thread on the Poconos:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/530/topics/711235-vacation-rentals-in-the-poconos

Post: Do you provide linens? Pros/cons to both?

Eric P.Posted
  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 348
Originally posted by @Ryan Detzel:

I was just under the assumption (like a hotel) that we would provide the linens but I spoke with some local owners this weekend and every place in the complex requires the guest to bring their own. This would make the process (turnover) much easier/faster but I feel you then loose that experience. What are you thoughts on this? The property will be a summer vacation rental, mostly rented by the week.

 This is a pretty awesome thread - interesting to hear about the different conventions in dft locations. Just remember though - just bc “it’s always been done that way here” doesn’t mean you can’t innovate & stand out from the crowd  which can result in more bookings & higher revenue

Originally posted by @Nico C.:

My lender will not consider income from my short term rentals as part of my Debt to Income Ratio. Any suggestions or workarounds? (Besides submitting a bogus lease for a “long term tenant”... yes this has been suggested... not doing it.)

I've seen a few lenders mentioned on BP that will accept STR income less than 2 yrs or even projected income: Host Financial, RNC Capital, Land Brothers. Let me know how it goes if you work with any of them!