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All Forum Posts by: Eric Carr

Eric Carr has started 9 posts and replied 644 times.

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
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Treasury bond futures and the NASDAQ,  denominated in Bitcoin, are going down. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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99.5% of the world's energy is used by something other than bitcoin.  Seems like a small cost to pay for the world's most valuable and most secure financial network on the planet. 

I care about the environment. I've got an entire pack of rescue animals. Am anti hunting,  anti clear cutting and and forcest destruction and animal habitat clearing. I think humans can do a better job of caring for the planet and the life on it. I grow my own vegetables, I recycle rainwater, my house I got solar all my light fixtures are on timers and use LED. My electric bill every 2 months is less than most people spend on coffee in a week. 

 I believe that bitcoin is driving a major push for renewable energy and computing efficiency. It's actually leading the way. Where else have municipalities used Volcano energy to power machines? Since when did the largest oil companies not flare gas byproduct into the environment but instead are starting to use it to mine bitcoin?  There is an incredible amount of waste taking place on the planet yet people are pointing their fingers at bitcoin. The most valuable and most secure thing that uses less than half of 1%. 

I wonder if even 10% of the people using the environmental argument have changed all of their indoor and outdoor lighting systems to LED, are recycling water, have changed their water heaters to tankless, have installed solar, and are using water and energy efficient items in their houses? How many of them are strict and diligent about recycling? 

  Just as other technologies have eliminated archaic processes, middlepeople, and cut down on the resources necessary to complete a task, bitcoin will produce a net savings. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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Also Scott, I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy. But a lot of what you had said - i can point back to my comments about understanding the asset.   A thorough understanding should help one make a good choice.  In that research anyone can see that bitcoin has already been copied 11,000 times and no one can copy it. Look back 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, the price trajectory and adoption scale are all there to see, to make a decision either way - based on data.  But like I said in my original statements on another thread from years ago, most people use the same arguments and most of them are half thought out. 

 I think it's important to understand the psychology behind investing and risk. People said the same things about Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Apple, Amazon, Uber, airbnb, Tesla, and the Internet.  Almost every argument I've heard against bitcoin has been a repeat.  Also, a good understanding of exponential change may help many.  In each of those examples, if you understood the value, you might have picked the winners

I'm not here to convince anyone or change anyone's mind.  Majority of what I've posted here are simply facts. The rest are my thoughts on why we are in trouble and why I think the world needs a return to sound money and why bitcoin will win. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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Quote from @Scott Trench:

Based on recent posts, my belief is as follows: 

@Eric Carr is a fan of Bitcoin. :) 

Jokes aside, I think that Bitcoin and Crypto is a great concept and totally admire the spirit behind them. I just think that there are a lot of reasons why Bitcoin is good. And a lot of reasons why Ethereum is good. And a lot of reasons why a whole host of other cryptocurrencies are good. There are also a lot of reasons to doubt Bitcoin's Proof of work model. And plenty contradictory reasons to believe in it. There are good reasons to like other cryptos, and good reasons to think they won't work out. Assuming that you can pick the "right" crytpocurrency that "wins" long-term, there are good reasons to think that a cryptocurrency won't in the end actually replace major national currencies. And finally, even if you do pick the "winner", there are good reasons to doubt whether"investing" in bitcoin or the winning crypto will actually produce long-term returns that outpace those of alternative assets like businesses and real estate.

Point 1: A strong crypto might emerge to challenge national currencies and be taken as a serious currency for daily use by a major percentage of the world's population. But, guessing which coin that will be is still, as of now a gamble, despite those who just know that it will be Bitcoin. Or Ethereum. Or Dogecoin. Even if Bitcoin "wins" (and there are certainly a lot of reasons for it to be a frontrunner at this time), we know it only has a lifespan of ~150 years or so until no more can be mined. So best case, it is the "winner" for 150 years. A Deflationary currency (which it certainly will be if population growth continues and no more coins are mined, and it is in fact the long-term "winner" in being widely adopted as the world's primary store of value) will not be tolerated by most. 

I think that it is more likely that future innovators solve the key problems with proof of work (computing power, expensive transactions, the still possible but low likelihood of a single massive processor taking over the network) and proof of stake (risk of centralizing power over the currency in few or a single entity's hands). After all, the founding fathers of the US had to solve for a parallel set of problems and did so with the separation of powers into three branches of government.

Point 2: Even if a winner does emerge, true power comes from the barrel of a gun, and the United States government has a legal monopoly on power. I pay my taxes in whatever currency Uncle Sam requires, and I will charge my customers and/or employer in that same currency, even if a better one exists. If the US government, or a future world superpower does not like Bitcoin, it can require individuals to use its primary currency. Economics are powerful until they aren't. The world's most powerful military is paid in dollars. And payment of taxes is enforced in dollars by that government. This trumps all theoretical arguments about Bitcoin until this power dynamic changes.

Point 3: Even if a winner does emerge, and powerful nations are forced to accept it as a form of payment to rival or replace their own currencies, as an investor I have to understand how "investing" in bitcoin helps me generate returns that are lower risk or greater than alternative assets. Does $1 invested in Bitcoin (because let's be real, we compute our returns in terms of DOLLARS invested and then returned in a future state, not in terms of Bitcoins invested now and returned in a future state) return MORE than $1 invested in real estate, stocks, bonds etc? To me, the entire rationale behind a currency like Bitcoin is for it to be a stable store of value that is not subject to the whimsy of overamped central bankers. 

For these reasons, I do not invest in bitcoin. 

The use case I see for bitcoin right now is in the case of an individual who for whatever reason has a large amount of cash, and does not trust the dollar or their country's currency. In this case, I can see diversifying one's "cash" position across their home country's currency, gold, commodoties, and a few cryptos to reduce the risk of inflation on their portfolio. Everything else, I'd invest in assets that have the potential to appreciate in value (can be improved, are inherently scarce, etc) or generate strong future cash flows. To this effect, I did hold bitcoin for a period of time, with this lens (I had a moderate cash position and diversified across equal parts bitcoin, gold, and dollars as an inflation hedge). But I exited that position and now stick with dollars and gold for my "cash" position to keep things simple. I just feel that I can't pick a winner in this space confidently right now. 

 Some networks might work out if there's a use case, smart contracts. Bitcoin is the only decentralized, non confiscatable, with a fixed supply. The rest are technically securities. Facebook's project was shut down because no one wants corporate controlled money. 
Will a company emerge that does what Amazon does that puts Amazon under? Probably not

What a product comes out that looks and tastes just like Coke, beat the actual Coke? Probably not. 

Do you believe that there will be a rush of competition to make a crypto asset that will become the global money? Don't you believe that it will be designed with what governments want? Which, is the ability to control and manipulate and print an infinite amount? 
How would that be any different or useful than what we have now?
Don't you believe that the world needs sound money?
And don't you think the mindset of "I will skip Amazon because there will be something better" would cause people to miss out? 

As far as picking winners, how is it different than the stock market? Understand the thing, and invest in the one that you have the most belief in. Like picking a market for a property. Or by an index fund. Or look at where the big money is going. Countries aren't adopting ether, nor polka dot, they are adopting bitcoin. 

Proof of work is what makes the network secure - major value. Anything worth anything in life takes work, just like mining for gold.  When it came to gold mining, no one ever said, "let's not and say we did" 




Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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Larry Fink says Blackrock is studying crypto assets to understand how they can help thier clients. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/f...

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
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Quote from @Terrell Garren:

Bitcoin has done so many wonderful things for the world. Said no one ever. 

Ex-Party Producer Charged in $2.7 Million Bitcoin-Laundering Scheme - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 Hey, here's Janet Yellen again.

Janet Yellen, Sounding More Constructive, Acknowledges Crypto's Role in Finance

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 655
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South Korean tech giant LG Electronics has officially updated its business development goals to include cryptocurrency and blockchain-based software

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 655
  • Votes 293
Quote from @Terrell Garren:

Bitcoin has done so many wonderful things for the world. Said no one ever. 

Ex-Party Producer Charged in $2.7 Million Bitcoin-Laundering Scheme - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 It's saving El Salvadorians over 450 million dollars in remittance fees, so that's good. Also more than 100 million dollars have reached Ukraine in donations. Also good.

El Salvador used money from it's volcano mining to build a veterinarian college and animal hospital. Pretty damn good. 

  Like I said before, using bitcoin to launder money, is a stupid idea.  It's an open ledger.  Seems like the good here is that people eventually get caught and more will learn it'sa bad choice for crime - also good.

Smart criminals will stick to cash, but sometimes,  even those get caught 

Oh look, https://www.nj.com/essex/2022/...

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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ExxonMobil just announced it's using excess natural gas to mine bitcoin. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Eric CarrPosted
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Russia has just announced that it will accept bitcoin for its natural gas resources. 

 Someone here is going to think "it's used for crime! They are avoiding sanctions!". I tend to think of it as using a means of payment that can't be manipulated nor can be used as a weapon. I don't agree with what Russia is doing, I also believe that most Russians don't agree with it either. But for any country watching this, they can see that at any time, the US can cut them off financially, using the dollar. Gold also. The US Treasury is considering seizing Russian gold.