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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Gozlan

Joseph Gozlan has started 35 posts and replied 714 times.

Post: First time investing in commercial real estate

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
  • Votes 510
Quote from @Akar Pokhrel:

Please help me determine weather this number makes sense to you guys. Any feedback is much appreciated. 

11k sqft total building 

prime location with walmart anchored 

asking price: $4.7million 

CAP: 6%

100% leased (all NNN lease type)

annual base rent combined: $268k

total expense: $90k

NOI: $281k

lease expires: 2023, 2024, 2026, 2027,2032

my debt services are unknown at this point. What should I expect from my debt services regarding this deal? does this make sense to you all?

 6% cap in a 7% interest rates environment is going to be challenging. The other challenge as mentioned above is that the bank will consider it risky to give you a 5 year term with most leases set to expire in 1-3 years. 

That aside, to answer you question, these size of assets are normally financed by local banks (small to regional banks and credit unions). They will normally lend on a 3-7 years term, 20-25 years amortization and will be pretty firm on a 1.25 DSCR (which in most cases drive your LTV down below the 75% mark).

The rates are usually coupled with  the Prime index (about 7% today) so you rate will be in the [Prime +/- 0.5%] range.

Here is a link to a commercial mortgage calculator I like to use: https://calc.ebgtx.com

Post: Seller Financed Office Building

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
  • Votes 510

@Juan Aguirre your numbers are great for an experience investor that can handle financial surprises.

It seems that your underwriting depends on being fully leased in 6 months or less and the tenant paying the TI what happens to you if one or both of these assumptions prove wrong?

Can you carry for 8 months? 10 months? What if you get a dentist that wants to lease the space but needs over $250K to prepare the space for their needs?

This can be a great deal for you but you also should keep your eye open and accept that high leverage (in your case 90% LTV) with no contingency plan can be very risky. Just my .02

Post: Some Help needed for a Noobie Investor - What Q's to ask an Agent

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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@Javier Osoria the most important question an investor should ask a potential agent is: "Are you an investor yourself?" and the second most important question is "Can you please tell me about your investing experience?"

An experience investor/agent can offer you a LOT more than any other agent out there! Would you buy stocks from a broker that doesn't believe in the stock market? Would you go to a dentist that only has 3 teeth?

Post: Please Help Understand/Analyze Seller Financing Offer

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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@Brandon Bass A few things to ask/consider:

1) Why do they ask for seller financing? Some people are not bankable just because they are a business owner and conventional lenders don't really know how to comprehend complicated tax returns. Others, on the other hand, are not bankable for a good reason! Figure out the reason.

2) Texas is a homestead state. If they move in, eviction can be more challenging than if they were buying it as an investment.

3) Like was mentioned before, if they can't get a conventional loan today at 8% what makes them think they will be able to get one in 3 years?

4) with a 20% down, conventional loan for someone with good credit would be in the 6.5%-7%  (which makes their 8% offer another flag)

5) No matter what you do, make sure it's YOUR attorney that writes up the documents for the note and VERIFY the note got recorded by the title company after closing.

Good Luck!

Post: Absolute NNN Diligence Question

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Benjamin Aaker:
Quote from @Joseph Gozlan:

One of the most critical items to review is the lease. How many more years left, renewal options, responsibilities of maintenance, rent increases, etc. 

Another important thing is to evaluate the tenant’s financial strength. 

These are the basis to the NNN value in a deal like this.

The physical building should be inspected as of you would inspect it even if it's not a NNN deal.


It's interesting how the lease becomes so important in commercial properties. The lease has a huge impact on the value of the property, which is much more than in multifamily. It seems there is much less consideration for 'potential rent' in commercial.

 When you have 5-10 years lease with predetermined rent bumps, how would the "potential rent" be relevant? You only get it if the tenant defaults on the lease or chooses not to exercise an option to extend.

In the apartments world we use a standard lease form (usually the state's apartments association's form). In commercial, especially in NNN leases where there's a national grade tenant, it's a lot more common to see custom contracts which required deeper diligence and understanding.

Post: What ever happened to Matt Onofrio? NNN Investing

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
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@Evan Bonnell I'm not sure what happen to this guy but if you need assistant with NNN or have questions, I'll be happy to help!

Post: Anyone have experience in buying a laundry mat?

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
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@Anna Washburn are we talking about buying the building, the business or both?

Post: The 3 types of investors in this market

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Matt Bishop:

@Joseph Gozlan, I believe if house prices fall, they will recover, someday. I have 13 SFH, most have no mortgage. Rents are up and I have no interest in selling anything in the next 10 years or buying more unless I run across a deal that is too good to pass up. I bought most of my houses 10 - 20 years ago for about a third of their present value and paid them off within 5 years. For me, real estate is a long term investment


That's an interesting approach. One of the biggest advantages of real estate is the opportunity to leverage your money using bank loans. Even if you keep a low LTV it's still worth it to leverage over paying cash in my opinion. That said, everyone has their own strategy and entitled to do their thing :-)

Post: The 3 types of investors in this market

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
  • Votes 510
Quote from @James Hamling:

@Joseph Gozlan without a doubt #3. But, I have always been #3, this isn't anything new. 

If your NOT an Adaptive investor, then your a new investor, and will not remain an investor for long. The only constant IS change. I have done so many different evolutions since '09', it's honestly hard for me to try and peg just how many times I had adjusted, evolved, shifted gears. 

I don't really believe there is a #2. Yes, people trying to project there #2, but I find nearly all who speak to such either never have done a deal because there "in preparation phase" or were a 1-2 hit wonder; did "A" deal and just "getting ready for the next one".... since 2017, lol. 

I argue that a person is not an investor, unless your ACTIVE. Maybe a former investor, a wanna-b investor, but if your not in it, your not IN it. 

The investors I know talking like there #2, there still doing deals, they may be sounding like #2 but there actions are #3. 


 So what's your current goto strategy? What asset classes are you investing in today? Any other plans for next year already in play?

Post: Strip Mall/Building Value

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
  • Votes 510

@Tim Goddard unless these lease are absolute NNN leases then your OPEX will have more than just insurance and taxes.

The importance with these deals is to understand the strength of these tenants (sounds like all are small local businesses) and how long they have been in business (I'd feel more comfortable with a coffee shop that's been in the same spot for 12 years than one that's been there for 2 years...). 

Lastly, I'd make sure to watch the LTV and your reserves. If the economy take a turn for the worse, you can find yourself real fast with 33% vacancy (one tenant) or 60% vacancy (the laundromat) or worse...

That said, I love those small neighborhood service centers as an investment vehicle for the coming downturn. Just make sure you have the reserves to hold in case you need to turn a tenant spot.