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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Gozlan

Joseph Gozlan has started 35 posts and replied 714 times.

Post: Valuation on CRE as cash business without tax returns?

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
  • Votes 510
Quote from @AP Horvath:

When you are looking at a Mom & Pop deal like self-storage or self-service carwash -- and the seller absolutely refuses to provide financial statements or tax returns -- because they have been running this as a cash business and avoiding taxes ---- how do you determine the property's true CF and value? 

Obv there is risk and it would be easy to say -- just move on etc etc 

But there might be gold in them there hills -- how to figure this out? 


 Two realistic options:

1) IF they deposit it in the bank, ask for bank statements. 

2) Ask to spend 2 weeks on-site at the beginning of the month to see how much cash they actually receive. 

Post: Commerical Property Manager

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Cason Acor:

8-10% of gross rents.


 That's insane for a commercial property! These numbers are from the residential world. 

A commercial management company will charge you about 3%-5% depending on what's needed to be done on the property (how much involvement required) and they will probably charge additional commissions for the leasing when needed. 

Post: Looking for value and advice on commercial lease.

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Ronald Rohde:
Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:

BP has an agent finder tool, but I don't know if it helps with commercial or just residential agents: https://get.biggerpockets.com/...


 That tool is just for residential. I've tried it for commercial and everyone was clueless.

 @Ronald Rohde anything commercial in Texas, you know I got you ;-)

Post: Commercial building New Jersey

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Calling every other day kinda reveals your hand. 

Figure out what you're willing to pay if they don't empty the building and tell the agent you can pay X for the building as-is and the offer is on the table until you find something else to buy. Then, stop calling every other day and keep searching. 

If they get back to you before you you find something else, good. Otherwise, maybe you find something better that'll be less work and a better price. 

Post: NNN long term lease, inflation factor?

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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I happen to be a commercial AND business broker so I understand the complexity you are facing. As you mentioned, there are multiple variables to the negotiations. 

Here are a few things to consider:

1) The biggest consideration should go to your biggest expense: TAXES! Selling a business will be taxed, selling the building will be taxed and becoming a W2 employee (for your husband) will have tax implications as well. So, the moving parts of the deal might be pulling in different directions as it comes to the taxes HOWEVER, the buyer might be flexible enough to move numbers from one pat to another realizing for them the total purchase price remains the same. 

2) You mentioned it's an office. The office buildings are in a world of hurt since COVID blew up in 2020 and I don't think we'll ever see them recover to the pre-COVID levels. 

3) Run the What-If scenarios for the sale vs. lease. If the buyer want's to move to a cheaper, place, fails to run the business, succeed to run and need a bigger place, etc. How does it look for you as a landlord? Can you find another tenant? How fast? Will you have to keep paying mortgage on the building while it's empty? Can you afford it?

To answer you specific question, there are leases that are set in a way where the increases are X% OR CPI the higher of the two thus hedging from inflation. That said, I've never seen them on NNN leases (which already hedge you from inflation) only in NN and modified gross leases where the landlord expect to be impacted by the rise in inflation.

Post: Best Methods for Finding Off-market Hotel Owners?

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 734
  • Votes 510
Quote from @Owen Dashner:

Shot in the dark here, but I am looking for different methods to find contact info for older mom and pop hotels. I have done a lot of direct mail for SFR and multifamily over the years, but have never tried it for hotel owners. Any list providers out there that might have something in this category? Our niche is purchasing non-performing, older hotels and converting them to multifamily. Our group is on several broker marketing lists, but I am wondering about sourcing leads off-market. Any help/ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

@Andrea Foley


 Co-Star & CRExi are your best bet. 

Post: Best 'day job' to get into full-time adaptive reuse of CRE?

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Marshall Adams:

OR...maybe it doesn't really matter? - Like, if you can secure the deal, you can secure the deal, regardless of your "day job"?  Thank you for any thoughts!


 This^^^

I've seen plumbers, teachers, firefighters and dentists do CRE transactions. Your "day job" is irrelevant. That said, being handy and capable of fixing/building things could prove beneficial in at least two ways:

1) You can estimate more closely the costs of making changes/fixing/building which can help you make better offers. 

2) You can have better ideas or ways to look at a property and imagine ways it can be improved or repurposed. 

Post: Commercial Tenant Selling Buiness Question

Joseph GozlanPosted
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  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Chris G.:

Have a small plaza that consists of mainly mom and pop style stores/ tenants. One of the tenants lease ended and has been going m-m for few months now. They're in the process of trying to sell their business. Now if they sell the business it would be the same store in my plaza just a new owner. To me I would want the new owner to do an application mainly to check their person credit and background since this is a smaller mom and pop business. Should the current tenant have the "possible buyer" do an application prior to selling it to them to make sure I accept them? Like if they do the application after they buy the business and they have criminal history and low credit I'm not sure I would want them to sign a lease. The current tenant is acting like they'll sell their business and then have me deal with the new owner application and lease after. Hopefully this makes sense and someone has a better idea on what to require. 


 A MTM lease is still a lease. There should be a clause in there for lease assignment and what the requirement are. As the landlord, you have to agree to the lease assignment or demand a new one (considering that it's an MTM) and that entails whatever deposit and/or background checks you may require. 

Post: NNN ground lease proposal

Joseph GozlanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Plano, TX
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Quote from @Montana Strunk:

There is a vacant Taco Bell in my area. Has anyone purchased a vacant fast food chain building then turned around and sold it to another fast food chain and had the retailer on a ground NNN lease? The property is on a main busy road and there are several other food options in the area so I would think any food chains that did not have a building near by would be interested in the property.

I've read a few successful stories involving purchasing vacant land then turning around and pitching the location to fast food businesses but I'm a bit stuck on how you could sell an already built building that could be renovated by the company. Also, if anyone on this forum has done a deal like this, what did your process look like from start to finish. I appreciate any advice! 


 While doable, there are 2 main challenges to overcome:

1) The big chains have the buildings built to suite. That Taco Bell is designed to be a Taco Bell, not a McDonalds or a Burger King. The big guys, don't like changing their design/workflow unless the location is absolutely one they have to have.  Which leads us to point number two.

2) If Taco Bell decided they can't be profitable in that location, why would any of the big fast food restaurants think otherwise? Remember, these corporations have real estate teams that do the research to figure out where to place the next restaurant. That would be a risk for that person's job to say "we can make it where the other big guy couldn't"


Realistically, you might find a local restaurant to take over or tare down the building and do a build to suite for another person but would be very difficult to get another fast food chain to take over. 

Post: Fire rated door requirements

Joseph GozlanPosted
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  • Plano, TX
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@Brian Moran how would you feel if anything happen and someone got hurt? Don't trust the internet for an answer to something like that, do as @Henry Clark suggested, call the local fire marshal, they won't charge you a dime and will give you the professional answer.