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All Forum Posts by: David Dachtera

David Dachtera has started 94 posts and replied 4486 times.

Post: Angry sellers not returning earnest money

David DachteraPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Rockford, IL
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Quote from @Jane S.:

This is not my first time finding out that a property I had UC had too many deferred conditions. But it's the first time I'm not getting my earnest money back.

The sellers accused me of acting in bad faith. However, their MLS listing stated the house was a 4-bedroom, and the 4th bedroom was in a partially finished basement, had no door, no light switch, no closet, and egress was not compliant with code. Also the so called bedroom was adjacent to the location of the room with the gas furnace & water heater and AC, and I was told that if the furnace was drawing air from the adjacent "bedroom" it could not be used as a bedroom or "office". I think that's why the entry door was not hung. I'm not sure I could get a building permit to convert this room into a bedroom.

There was only one light switch in the basement located at the bottom of the stairs and it operated both basement ceiling fixtures. (The mechanical room had a ceiling light with a pull chain.) So I should have walked away but now I'm looking at a dead loss of $5K. The property is in a very good well-maintained older location and had a lot of curb appeal. Sellers had done a fair lipstick job on the main and part of the upper floors.

The sellers installed a $50,000 solar array of 12.8 kw, which I also found out was way too much capacity in that location for the sole purpose of lowering the electric bill. The MLS listing also stated that "there would never be an electric bill" but our utility doesn't refund any money, they deduct if from the cost of the other utilities. There is always at least a $17/month basic service fee. So more BS in the MLS listing.

The sellers borrowed the money to pay for the solar array. I was surprised that they were able to borrow the total price. If it had been a leased system I would not have made an offer.

It took the listing agent about 10 days to respond to my requests for the sellers utility bills so i would be able to see how the solar  system performed. She never asked the sellers to provide them, according to my broker.  And there was no other way to learn how the system functioned. This foot dragging made it really difficult to do any realistic cash flow projections.

As an interesting side piece of data, the (currently getting divorced) sellers borrowed the $50K for the solar system, so they owned it, and it went live this February. They separated and moved out in May this year. Prior to that they had installed a beautiful, very expensive xeriscape landscape front and back, which is a joy to look at, and which also must have sapped their finances in addition to a new furnace, new roof, new central AC, and cosmetics in the interior of the house (LVT & tile etc).

I plan to call a few attorneys to try to determine what my liability would be because the sellers have stated their plan to take me to court if I challenge them.

What's your quick opinion, should I avoid the stress of litigation? Do I have a case?  According to my broker, they can't try to get more money out of me than the earnest money. But if I got legal representation and lost I have all kinds of very expensive liability.

I definitely think they snookered me by withholding the truth and the facts of the solar deal they made. 

Thanks much for reading this far. Maybe I should stay out of the market for a while.


Yes - get an attorney on-board. Sounds like a shady seller.

You'll always find folks in the market who aren't quite on the up-and-up.  Don't let it bother you. Take the lesson, grow the calluses and move on.

My $0.02 ...

Post: Lessons learned from wholesale deal turned into lawsuit

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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Post: Investing Meetup Takeaways

David DachteraPosted
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I don't think networking opportunities are ever wasted unless you choose not to take advantage of them. Even meeting types of people you don't or rarely encounter is an opportunity to learn about them if not from them.

The event itself my not have much to offer to you. It's up to you learn what you can and meet new people.

My $0.02 ...

Post: House Not Selling

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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I looked at the listing on Zillow and really only saw one issue, though it may be a big one.

The description says 2-1/2 car garage. It's fairly well detached from house and not especially convenient. Also, there's no driveway leading up to that garage. The listing pics show a "dual rut" gravel driveway that ends at the rear of the house.

So, from a potential buyer's perspective, they're likely seeing these expenses on top of the acquisition costs: pave the driveway from the curb to garage (low guesstimate: $10k) and possibly add a car port near the back door to the house to make unloading groceries, etc. more convenient.

The description says "Basement: None". However, the pics suggest a crawl space (block foundation) for plumbing, ductwork, etc. This may confuse some potential buyers. May seem like a small thing ... remember: "the confused mind always says 'no'."

State St. is a major artery - lots of traffic, and the yard is not fenced at the moment - not "family friendly". This represents another potential post-acquisition expense.

The room(s) at the front of the house suffer from "big blank wall syndrome". Added windows might have been a good idea (selling point to let light in).

Judging by where Google shows the lot lines, you may want to consider separately selling the parcel where the garage currently stands, build a new attached garage at the rear of the house. Alternately, on the second parcel, you could take that garage down, put up another house with a detached garage to make better use of the land.

I'm not familiar with Cook County's on-line tax system (wonder if there's a GIS for it?). However, I'd want to verify that the tax amount stated in the Zillow listing represents both parcels. If not, that could be a "knock out" factor for potential buyers. Folks aren't hip on the idea of paying taxes for land which sits largely unused or just to provide a place for the garage to stand. Zillow also shows a triangular parcel east of the other two. Not sure about taxes, etc. for that. Might be worth looking into - I did, others might, also.

My $0.02 ...

Post: How much negative cash flow is too much

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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Quote from @Bill B.:

@David Dachtera

Lately I’ve been accused twice of insulting people when I ask questions, so right up front. This is not an insult, it’s a real question. 

You say: "Investing" for appreciation is NOT investing, it's speculating (read: gambling).

Are you saying almost all stock investing, which is almost entirely based on appreciation is gambling? I certainly feel that way about bitcoin and probably silver/gold, and at least a little about stocks. It’s always bothered me when people won’t invest in real estate without cash flow but they’ll GLADLY invest in stocks with NEGATIVE cash flow, praying for appreciation.

This is the exact reason I stopped investing in stocks. There was no way I could buy enough stocks to generate enough cash flow to live on. When I retired I didn’t want to “hope I died before I spent all my savings”. That and having zero control over if they went up or down each day or even over time got me to real estate and changed my life. 

Again, honest question and not aimed solely at you. I’d be happy to hear anyone’s opinion, you were just the latest to say it and I thought you might still be online. 


There's a reason it's called "The Wall Street Casino". :-)  

Post: How much negative cash flow is too much

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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"How much negative cash flow is too much"?

Anything greater than zero.

Remember:

Appreciation puts $0 in your pocket unless you can borrow it out still not "feed an alligator" (cash flow negatively).

"Investing" for appreciation is NOT investing, it's speculating (read: gambling).

Be VERY clear what you're doing and why BEFORE you do it!

If it was me, hard pass.

My $0.02 ...

Post: Rich Dad says a home is a liability………

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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Strictly my opinion ...

A house does not become an asset until you either own it free-and-clear or your LTV goes below 50%.

Appreciation improves your equity position and net worth, but has no cash value in and of itself. You cannot spend / invest equity until you convert it to a liability (debt) plus an expense (interest).

Everything else about your primary residence is the same as any other RE investment: liabilities and expenses. It may not fit the financial definition of an asset. Yet, it provides shelter and comfort.

My $0.02 ...

Post: umbrella policy is going up over 50%

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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An important point to remember is that if your umbrella policy has to pay out, it means someone took you to court and you lost. Your ENTIRE ESTATE is now exposed and subject to discovery in any subsequent litigation.

May as well post a list of your holdings on a billboard saying, "Come 'n get it!"

My $0.02 ...

Post: Tenant wants to break lease due to AC

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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Quote from @Nicho C.:

Hello BP community,

I am currently renting a home to a family that has been in my unit for about 3 months.  Since they've moved in there's been numerous complaints about the A/C not cooling to the desired temp and maintaining the temp.  Each time I've addressed the issues by calling an A/C company to come out and check/fix the problem.  (The tenant wants A/C to reach 65-68 in the home.)  Multiple times it has reached the desired temp but struggled to maintain due to various reasons which have been addressed (+its been 100 degrees outside for the past 3 weeks).  After the most recent A/C repair, the home reaches 65-68 consistently but now the tenant is complaining that, although the house is reaching 65-68, the master bedroom and office are not getting to that temp.

Nowhere in the lease does it state that the temp must reach 65-68. but I have an e-mail response to the tenant before they moved in where they asked, "due to wife's medical condition, temp needs to be kept around 65-68, will A/C be sufficient to accommodate this?"  To which I replied, "Yes the AC works fine."   **Before move-in I had an A/C company verify the unit is fully functional and problems started to happen after they began utilizing the system to maximum capacity. 


To "fix" the issue of room temp A/C company said would cost thousands per room to tear into the wall to check the ductwork. To me, this is not an option because the room is just a few degrees warmer than the thermostat.  Instead, I offered to install a mini-split in the bedroom and a ceiling fan in the office. 

They are insisting they would rather be released from the lease without penalty and it wouldn't be "fair" to have to break the lease to the terms.  (Penalty for breaking lease is 60 days notice + additional 2 months rent fee)

I've done everything in my power to accommodate the tenant and diligently had professionals come out each and every time in a timely manner to address the A/C issues, and even offered to add mini-split and ceiling fan but they would still rather me break the lease without penalty.

My theory: They regret renting a 3000sq ft home with high ceilings where the A/C is kept at 65 all day and night in 100-degree weather and got their first couple of electric bills and want to find a way to get out of the 1-year lease without penalties.

1. Based on my actions and my proposal to fix A/C issues, am I legally good to stand my ground and make them abide by the terms of the lease? 

2. Am I even legally obligated to accommodate a mini-split and ceiling fan to the 2 rooms although the house as a whole is reaching the desired temp? 

Thanks for any/all advice. 


This person should be in a specially-equipped medical facility.

The design of a domestic A/C system is intended to maintain a 20 degree difference between the inside and the outside air temp.

30 to 35 degrees or more difference is not a reasonable or realistic expectation.

Perhaps your attorney can suggest how to present this to your tenant. Diplomacy is not my gift.

Post: Units won't rent??

David DachteraPosted
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  • Rockford, IL
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First guess time:

Folks looking for a 2Br are disappointed that there's only one, even though it has the loft. As a 2nd bedroom, it has no privacy being open the area below. If I were looking specifically for a 2Br, that would be a big "knockout" factor in my mind.

That high ceiling space costs a fortune to heat if any cold weather comes along and stays a while. I didn't see any ceiling fans and while the exposed beams look nice, I don't see how the ceiling is insulated. That means heat loss in cool weather and heat gain in summer. So, you may have design issues. I'm a former HVAC guy; so, my take on it may not represent the average apartment hunter.

Also, the washer being in a closet and the dryer in the kitchen seems a bit bizarre - almost an "Oops!' after-thought.

My $0.02 ...