All Forum Posts by: David Dachtera

Your reply here shows that "you don't get if" - not trying to be condescending at all. What you suggest - a presentation - might be taken by others to be just marketing or propaganda. But if you were to do as 

@J Scott just posted, to contribute to the BP community in a worthwhile way so that other members recognize you as an authority on some subject and someone with integrity - then others might actually see that as a demonstration of the value of your education. Hopefully that makes sense; it's the message I was alluding go with that earlier post. 

@David Dachtera -

This is actually a great suggestion by Steve.  I would bet money that if Steve, Jay, Bill or any of a handful of other folks here were to recommend Renatus (or any program for that matter), BP members would flock to it. 

That's because BP folks have seen the value that people like Steve, Jay and Bill provide to the community.  They've proven their expertise, experience and their desire to help other members here.  And because of that, they've built trust with the community.

If you stick around, contribute, prove your expertise and your commitment to helping others here succeed, you'll probably find that you will build enough trust that people will come to you and ask you where you gained all your knowledge.

Enough said.  Your stance is interesting given that it sounds like your real estate efforts haven't yet paid for your Renatus tuition...

Get a few more deals under your belt and you may find that your perspective on a lot of the stuff you've said here has changed.  And I mean that in all sincerity...the more deals I do, the more I realize how little I know about this business.  And the more I respect the opinions of those who have accomplished more than I ever will in this business.

In the meantime, I'd recommend you stick around BiggerPockets, leverage the information we have available here and perhaps even get involved in some forum topics that are actually real estate related.  It's free, so you have nothing to lose!

I have looked at the list of posts here on BP for both Doug Leedy and @David Dachtera, and it seems the vast majority of what they have posted is specifically things to endorse  / defend Renatus.  The value speaks for itself in Doug's words - they seem more interested in debating and arguing in favor of Renatus than actually demonstrating the value of the Renatus real estate education. Now they could do a better job demonstrating their real estate education's value by posting much more here on BP to help those novices who ask for assistance. That would actually demonstrate that they have learned something from that education. 

Not sure whether that would happen but it is a suggestion worth consideration ...

@David Dachtera 

  thanks for pointing out your profile, I would say its commensurate with 80% or greater of the BP members.. and now I can see why you have been somewhat brainwashed by the promises of RE rich's and the super simple way of getting them by just convincing others with limited experience to join so you make money without ever having to buy anything.

Scott Rowe: http://freelambo.com/

www.WebinarIntro.com

It's funny.......the follow up videos have been changed. Also, I can't access them without it being live.....must have had poor results.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/nouveu-riche-jim-pic...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_Riche_%28real...

http://nouveau-riche.pissedconsumer.com/lied-about...

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=6928

Basically, google Scott Rowe - Nouveau Riche University - 

In case you are wondering....Nouveau Riche was the school that closed due to it being illegal. Some of the people from that school helped develop Renatus.

Best link for last:

http://workathomeincomereviews.com/nouveauriche-ht...

This is the reason Renatus was created. To start where Nouveau Riche failed. I highly doubt it is much different.

I've spent enough time on this. I know that Renatus rep's will continue to defend/deflect. If a person still wants to do this then I wish you the best.

Perhaps the issue is that you wouldn't recognize it if you did see it?

Anyway, in all the discussion here where you've insulted and questioned our experience and knowledge, you've yet to tell us about yourself.

What do you do for a living?  Are you a full-time real estate investor?  An entrepreneur?  A business executive?  Just trying to gauge your background as a successful business-person given your criticism of others' business knowledge.   

Have many real estate deals have you done?  You seem eager to criticize a couple people here (other than me) who have decades of experience and have done hundreds or thousands of deals worth many tens or hundreds of millions of dollars -- I'm curious if your criticism is coming from a place of knowledge or not.

So, tell us a bit about yourself...

Logic is certainly not everyone's forte...

Btw, given Scott Rowe's post the other day about how his lawyers would crucify him for throwing out success data publicly, I'm now even more surprised that they haven't yet asked you to stop posting...perhaps when the lawyers see your post about your estimate that Renatus students have a 75% success rate, that will change...

Have a great night!