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All Forum Posts by: Dawn Young

Dawn Young has started 14 posts and replied 126 times.

Post: Rollover for Business Startup (ROBS)

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

No, actually we used the funds to purchase an RV park, and are actively looking for another multi-family (most likely commercial) investment.  Call guidant, they are one of the few that seem to know anything about ROBS.  One of the biggest annoyances is that no one knows anything about it.  So you mortgage company won't understand, local bank won't understand, none of our friends understand---we're not rich, so a lot of people thing we're being taken advantage of or that its some kind of scam,  but its not.  Also you probably already know that c corps stink a little, or a lot.  And we've had to hire lawyers to do things that if we had just paid the taxes, (and organized as an llc), we would have done ourselves.  But I think it was worth it, financially, although its been stressful.  message me if you want to chat on the phone and I can give more info. 

Post: Using ROBS/C-Corp to buy a mobile park home?

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

I'm using a robs to buy an RV park.  It's my understanding that parks are definitely considered a business.  There are many lots.  There's a "job" there.  

Post: Rollover for Business Startup (ROBS)

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

What Guidant and the Attorney told us was that if you had several rental properties, you could be seen as the management company of said properties. That's not what we're doing with our 401K robs, but that's what they told us. Always double check though! Another note is that Robs is definately not worth doing if you only have a little in your llc. There are expenses to doing it this way a corp is different than an LLC. Time will tell if my hubs and I made the right decision ourselves!!! I'll try to keep updated on how it goes for us.

Post: ROBS 401k Transactions - Selling to Family

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

my understanding is that you can't sell it to yourself or your llc, or your son/daughter/parent/sibling.  Granparent, yes, you could.  but I'd definately ask a pro first.  We have a company servicing our ROBs (guidant) that we can ask questions of, or you could ask an attorney.  sorry, i know this is an old thread, but i'm sure the question will come up again, and there isn't a lot of info out there on this subject, so I thought I'd chime in.  :)

Post: Surprise Flood insurance

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

I'm hearing a lot of people say shop for private insurance, I need to try this, but I do know that in my nieghborhood, is in a 100 year flood zone (6 inches of flood, every 100 years).  when the hosues were put in, they were required to have a flood cert done, which we did.  We did an inexpensive build (used manufactured homes) and built them to standards that the city said.  foundations bring the houses above the flood line by a brick or two.  Neighbors had a federally backed loan, and were required to have an engineered hills built.  I'm sure it was spendy, but they told me at the time, that it meant they didn't have to pay for flood insurance.  Then they lost the houses in forclosure/sales, etc, and new people bought them.  THESE people are being required by lenders to pay for flood insurance!  I am pretty sure that if they had the flood cert done ($225) or looked up the original (its only been 12 years) that they wouldn't have to pay it, as it sounds like the first owners didn't.  So, have a look at the property, if there are other newer properties around, that the owners know where the flood level was (around here, they stick a red   plastic ribbon on a tree, I just remember which knot of the tree the ribbon was on) and that would show you your true level of flood risk. locals will also know if  new flood canals have been built to change the flood behaviors--city hall would be up to date on that.  Other than that, yep, flood insurance is a thing we deal with.   

Originally posted by @Annchen Knodt:

Have you looked into private insurance?  I own a rental where flood insurance through the NFIP was a deal breaker, and I was about to go the elevation certificate route (I think the estimates I got for that were ~$500) when I discovered that I could get insured through a private company at a fraction of the cost, and the lender was fine with it.

Hi, annchen!  do you mind sharing who the private company was?

Post: Flood insurance is messing with my numbers!

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

my experience has been that with fema insurance--owner occupied is $500, non owner occupant $2000.  So, if that 4k quote was for an investor, and you sell it to an owner occupant, it be be a non-issue for them. They just roll in into their mortgage payment, when comparing to other properties.  or they my ask you to pay for the first year for them at closing.  Its worth talking to a good insurance agent, we use country.  I think some people are getting a better deal than I am, so I need to do some research myself.  

Post: Flood Insurance?

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Brandon Turner:

I buy flood insurance if the lender requires it. Most of my properties are located in a federal flood plain, so they do require it. It's not cheap ($900 a year, or so) and you have to buy a separate policy for each house.


This is a bargain to me!  around here its $2000.  The homes are worth$90,000 total replacement (floods here only go 6 inches over the ground,  so the worse it would be would be a crawlspace suck out, we have tall crawlspaces. )  so there is pretty much no way there is going to be a total replacement.  We've handled this by never leveraging the homes, which kind of stinks, because my capital is tied up in them.  Its your $900 because your total replacement cost is half maybe?  or, Is there a way to get a better deal than fema?

Post: Mobile Home

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

Yep, find a different park.  There are great ones out there!

Post: Mobile Home Buyers In Spokane WA?

Dawn YoungPosted
  • Benton City, WA
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 50

Hi!  I do mobile homes in Tricities, WA, which is a couple hours away from Spokane.  My husband and I know a little about the spokane market, not a ton.  :-)  We'd love to own a park someday.  Maybe we could partner.  I have a lot of good instincts about parks, and I know I could turn them around with little invested.  (not to brag, lol, I was just poor for a long time!  You get creative!)