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All Forum Posts by: Kumar Tummalapalli

Kumar Tummalapalli has started 17 posts and replied 170 times.

Post: Who is the Best Data Provider for Land? Currently use propstream.

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:

Happy Friday! I hope your week was fantastic and productive. I'm an infill lot wholesaler, and I've managed to wholesale nine deals since last August, In my first year in this business. Initially, I relied on county GIS to identify potential properties and acquired contracts via cold calls, which led to my first six deals. However, it was quite challenging. Now, I'm in a position to invest in better data. Can anyone suggest reliable data providers for land lists? Currently, I use Propstream, which is great for houses, but not so much for land. Thanks!

 I operate in the NC market but am based in Seattle, WA. I would love to connect with other investors/wholesalers


Happy Friday!


 propertyskark is also good but what is your use case - you want to identify vacant land ? from your qn , you seem to be looking for infill type projects ?depending on use case , one software migth take you there in 3 steps and another one in 5 steps .. Also some times FOIA to the county you are interested in also might lead interesting results 

yes I have contemplated a lot in one of my earlier flips . Summary is - split units would not be an aesthetic issue . Yes I thought it that way . As this is duplex - I am assuming this is for rental . Its almost impossible to build a rental unit with specs that everyone likes . I do understand that , in the middle of this issue , it seems like a big deal . 

I am huge practitioner of "Systems thinking"  - So eventhough not the qn you asked - Important point:   I understand the builder  is handling the design . Was the whole plan vetted either by a professional or if not , by any knowledgeable folks with previous experience . And have you had any gut remodel or new build experience . My suggestion is to go with a finetoothed comb and ensure the plan is solid . if you have previous experience , I might not add much , but if this is is one of your first new builds - I can chat with you and exchange some ideas. 

Post: ADU Success Story in SF Bay Area $275per sqft Finished

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46

The biggest scams that I dealt with in real estate investing always came from the priciest contractors. Apparently all the extra money is going to their high profile litigation attorney who has a bill board on the highway .


Originally posted by @Bruce Woodruff:
Originally posted by @Kumar Tummalapalli:

Its impossible to kill this myth that the pricier contractor is good 

That's because they usually are. Sometimes for no other reason than they have to be....

I had some competitors that knew absolutely nothing about building but were hugely successful. Why? Great businessmen and marketers...plus they had go-getter wives :-)

Post: CA ADU build progress pics, costs&anything else you want to know

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @David A.:

Stilllllllllll waiting on the utility company to energize the temporary power pole so the existing overhead electric line can be taken down and the roof framing can continue. 

Local utility planner has been elusive at best - 29 emails deep and still can't lock down a date for when they will be out to perform this work. The work order is now with the field office and we are waiting for a phone call in the next 10 business days for when the cut over will happen.  



Dual meter main electrical panel and ADU sub-panel are in

Tub and shower are in for the bathrooms

Really liking the tree top view from the bathtub. The architect really maximized the views from all the windows in the house. 

Great content , Are there any learnings from a budget point of view so far . I understand we can always plan and schedule better , but wanted to understand if you have identified any money saving opportunities

Post: ADU Success Story in SF Bay Area $275per sqft Finished

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @David A.:
Originally posted by @Ralpheal Doe:

Hello @Bruce Woodruff

I agree with you on trying to stay away from the lowest bidder for most situations. However, just because someone is more costly doesn't guarantee work will be done properly. In my previous career I needed to size people up on a daily basis. Upon meeting this GC he seemed like a straight shooter. I spoke with three of his past clients and then even our architect vetted him. He is a younger guy who works with his crew everyday. He enjoys the work which says a lot about someones character. We only hit one snag with inspections which wasn't even the GC fault, land surveyor was needed for setbacks. I look forward to working with this GC again in the near future.

I couldn't have said it better myself. The prices for each professional involved (surveyor, architect, contractor etc.) vary so much that you can't just default to the middle bid. Recommendations from trusted sources who have actually used their services before are more important to me. How they act from the initial e-mail, phone call, meeting, bid is often a good indicator of how they will be throughout the project. My contractor was the lowest bid as well, but that's because he uses his own crew for most of the work. He only takes on a couple projects at a time but likes to knocks them out quick and move on. He loves building, not managing multiple crews across 10 different job sites all across the county. He makes a very comfortable living but isn't trying to keep up with the monthly payments on that brand new fully loaded Ford F350 and a speed boat. These kind of contractors aren't easy to find, but ask around those in the industry and they know exactly who loves what they do and isn't just watching the clock until Friday payday.  

Its impossible to kill this myth that the pricier contractor is good . I am also not saying to go with the cheapest . It's just that there is no silver bullet. The original poster and you have shared some good tips.

I will go further and add that - references are also not a easy path. A contractor who is completely reasonable two years earlier can become very expensive suddenly , I also have seen cases where they dont have a team and hence no bandwidth , so rather than saying that , they just give an insane bid 

Post: Every property in CA should have at least 1 ADU

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Pavan Sandhu:

Every SFR in CA should have at least 1 ADU. I'd even go as far as to say you are losing money every month by not having an ADU on your property. These new laws are only in effect till 2024. What's stopping you from adding an Accessory Dwelling Unit to your property?

This has been bugging me since a month or so - as people I know who are house hunting since an year , dont even view a property with backyard which can house an ADU as advantage, They are paying 900$ per sq ft but dont understand how creating additional 800 sq ft would add value . I am not familiar with California market so I just thought there is something that I dont know

Post: Best strategy for a long-term Bay Area investment?

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:

@Kumar Tummalapalli  We have experienced 35% to 75% cash on cash return, annualized.  Because projects took less than 12 true returns were higher.   

This is awesome , I see you referred to Marin county. Are there areas where you can force equity by extensive renovation in San Mateo , Santa clara , Alameda or Contra Costa areas ? 

Post: Best strategy for a long-term Bay Area investment?

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Justin Thorpe:

@Tyler D'Alessandro

I have been an investor in the bay for over 20+ years and my start was buying a residential property, living in it for 3 years and renting it out. I bought that home in 2001.

A lot has changed since but seems like in many ways nothing has changed.

Back then “Prices were high”, the market was super competitive and people who could not afford or were scared to buy - often both - were calling a market top and a crash ahead. The same sentiment was 5x worse from people who did not live or invest in the Bay Area but felt they were somehow “uniquely qualified” to opine on the Bay Area market especially how it was a horrible place to live and had a dark future ahead. That sentiment is very prevalent today. Just surf the BP forums and you will see plenty of investors from tier 2 and tier 3 US markets offering their “expert” opinion on the Bay Area market and the “dark” future of California. So history will be a good guide, and history will tell you the long term returns on Bay Area RE are good.

The principles of investing are still the same. Buy low, add value and sell high or don’t sell if you don’t want to. Buy and hold works too. Listen to your gut and buy what feels comfortable with some element of risk and stretch built in.

Buy low means the cheapest property on the block and a place which you can forsee or force appreciation on. I can’t see how that is any different vs in the past. Money is made when you are buying.

There is a degree of speculation and luck surely. One property of mine shot up in value because a major tech co relocated their offices next door and many others followed. It was just pure luck. No research etc. Another one I bought with 100% research and analysis that many corporates were moving into that area, hasn’t done as well given Covid / WFH. Of course in the long term those prices will come back surely.

 can't keep it better than this. Atleast last 20 yrs - every year - the arm chair experts say "Bay area prices are crazy high " "Mass exodus from Bay area "  .No kidding . Even youtube it , you will find videos that say the same thing. But Prices rise , Super high demand , very low supply . That downturn never comes , the arm chair experts / google experts keep saying the same story

Post: Best strategy for a long-term Bay Area investment?

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:

You are describing exactly how things stood/appeared in 1997 when I bought my first Bay Area house.  In contrast, we felt like we were holding a lot of face cards when we bought our new primary in early 2009.  Sometimes waiting pays off.  Sometimes waiting causes you to miss out entirely.  No one has a crystal ball.  Best to look at what people are doing rather than saying.  On our part, we have bought three fixers in the past year and are looking out daily for number four.

I thought there is no opporutinity for the numbers to make sense on a fixer upper in and around bay area .. what areas and how does a typical deal look like ?  I am wary that the final equation looks like put in 200k cash fr fixing and then you might make 50K if you sell at the top - that is lot of capital at stake fr very less return

Post: LLC - interest rate less than 5% possible

Kumar TummalapalliPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 46
Got it , Thanks for explaining that , Ya 10 yr balloon is not a problem at all .

Originally posted by @Mike S.:
Originally posted by @Kumar Tummalapalli:
That is awesome Mike , Sorry for a dumb qn - why is it called 10 yr loan - I understand the amortization piece 

And Would I have to just look for a Commercial lender ? or are there any specific / famous commercial lending companies that I can start talking with .


It is called a 10 year loan because you have a balloon payment at 10 year. I would have prefer a longer term, but that lender was only offering 10 year loans. I wish that I could have a 30 year fixed rate, but with an LLC it is very rare.

Look into your local community banks that are keeping their loans in house, so they are more flexible on their underwriting.