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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 31 posts and replied 78 times.

Post: Any hard/private money lenders with longer terms that lend in OH?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

jerry Padilla  does these small loans.. these are hard to do .. as there is no money in them for the lender..

 Thank you. I will look him up on here. Any idea if he lends in OH?

Post: Any hard/private money lenders with longer terms that lend in OH?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17

Hey all, I am looking for somebody to finance my second rental property here in Cleveland. I'm not looking to borrow much, probably $25-$30k TOPS for multi family home plus any work that needs to be done. Preferably something with longer terms since this is going to be a buy and hold property. Any recommendations would be great!

Thanks

Post: How to properly vet a lender?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Andrew Michael:

Hey @Account Closed 

Good question and any legit lender should be willing to take the time and really answer all of your questions thoroughly and thoughtfully.  After all, you and your hard money lender are in a partnership of sorts so it is in everyone's best interest the deal goes well.  

The first thing I would ask is how many current loans do they have on the books and specifically how many in the area of the subject property.  National lenders have their place but I tend to favor local lenders that have an intimate knowledge of the area, can give you solid market feed back, and understand the demographics of where you are looking to invest.  The next thing I would look for is a lender who is willing to go through their loan process with you.  If they are quick to have you sign a dotted line beware.  A lender should also be willing to underwrite your deal and see if the numbers make sense.  Think of them as a partner and a second set of eyes on your deal.  Again this is where having local market expertise can be crucial. 

From there, I would ask for a loan breakdown and/or some type of term sheet so you know exactly what your terms are and what is expected of you.  When reading the terms look for red flags such as prepayment penalties, balloon payments past a certain number of months, high draw fee's, high inspection fee's, junk closing costs etc.  In most cases the following are pretty standard fee's; Points, appraisal, attorney, pulling credit.  There may also be draw fee's, inspection fee's, or wire fee's but these should be small if they are charged at all.  From start to finish the only fee's I am charged with my lender is points, appraisal (sometimes free), and an attorney fee.       

Last and most importantly, beware of high nonrefundable EMD's and high LTV lending ratios especially if you are a new borrower. Sorry but if this is your first flip and your are getting a 90% LTV ratio and generous terms something is probably wrong. No you did not get lucky, you are most likely walking into a predatory lending situation.

Call them and chat with them about potential deals and see how you feel.  Based on your post it sounds like you have a instinct for sniffing out bad lenders.  Follow your gut and find a lender you are comfortable working with.  Maybe even arrange to meet them in their office and see if the office setting is consistent with the vibe on the phone.        

Hope this helps!

 Awesome post man. I really appreciate that.

Post: How to properly vet a lender?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17

Hi all, I was just wondering how you guys vet hard money/private money lenders? Hopefully this does not offend anybody here, but alot of private/hard money lenders I've come across really give off a scammy vibe! How can I make sure somebody is legit???

Post: Seeking small loan for buy and hold property

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17

Hello all, I am looking to purchase my second investment property here in Cleveland. I am looking for someone willing to lend me only about $20-$25k with longer terms if possible. Unfortunately I cannot do hard money because those are shorter term and geared toward flips. I'm not sure I can get a mortgage through a bank because I have been unemployed for the past month, however I DO have multiple streams of income totaling close to $4.5k/month. My credit is decent, probably around the upper 600's. Please let me know if you are able to work something out with me! I can also provide a down payment if necessary. 

Post: Help with plan of attack for next property purchase

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Garry C.:

How's your credit? If it's in good shape, you might find good rates with crowdfunding sites like Prosper. There are a few dedicated to REI investing as well, they often sponsor the podcasts, if you poke around the site enough you should be able to find links to them here on BP.

 Thanks. As far as I know, my credit should be pretty good. Probably upper 600's lower 700's.... As far as prosper goes, don't they have really high interest rates though?

Post: Help with plan of attack for next property purchase

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17

Hello all, I have one rental property already that brings in $1300/month. I am in the process of finishing the third floor, so once that is done, I will be renting that out as well. I am trying to get my second rental property, but I have a hurdle. That hurdle is, I am currently unemployed. Have only been unemployed for about a month/month and a half, however I DO have income. Like I said, I have my rental property bringing in income, I have an ecommerce business that I started a few months back which makes about $2k in sales per month, and I also get a disability check for $880 each month from the VA.

I am only looking for a small amount to borrow for my next property; only about $25k tops for the purchase and I have credit cards for rehab supplies and such. Most banks probably wont work with me due to lack of a current job and also the amount I'm looking to borrow; it seems like most banks have a minimum amount borrowed, which is usually higher than 25k. What are my options here? I was thinking about maybe finding a hard money lender then refinancing through a bank to get longer terms, since HML's are typically short term solutions for flips and such. Would it be difficult to refinance as well due to the same reasons above (lack of current job)? Any advice or strategies would be greatly appreciated.

Post: What are the typical terms for a hard money lender?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Charlie Fitzgerald:

That's like asking what Lawyers typically charge...

What's wrong with asking that?

Post: What are the typical terms for a hard money lender?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Charlie Fitzgerald:

They are all over the board.  Just start talking to the ones that lend in your state (we do not).

 Yes I know that, but I was asking everybody what the normal terms are so that I don't end up getting ripped off....

Post: How to determine if a certain area is good for fix and flips?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Zane McLaughlin:

Hi @Account Closed,

I too am in buy and hold, and the area that I am in is great for buyers, but it is awful for sellers. I would never flip in my area. It may seem like a great place to buy houses for cheap, but in Fix & Flip, you make the most money by selling the house fast. If the market isn't great for sellers, than it will be hard for you to sell the property you just bought.

There needs to be a happy medium, and I would even venture to say that the market needs to lean more towards the sellers side. You will find the deals that need fixing and be able to buy them for under market value, but if you can turn and burn on those deals fast, they will make you the most money

 But how do you determine if a certain neighborhood or city is a good market for sellers? That's the issue I'm having....