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All Forum Posts by: Christopher Robert Noland

Christopher Robert Noland has started 2 posts and replied 69 times.

Post: How do I proceed?

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Jesse Dominguez-Castelan:
Quote from @Christopher Robert Noland:
Quote from @Jesse Dominguez-Castelan:

Back in 2021,I found myself an opportunity in Indiana, where I lived, to purchase a house. It ended up being a seller financed deal.  As it was my first opportunity to get some skin in the game, I jumped on the deal and we agreed on a 5 year ballon (4% rate, amortized at 15 yrs). I lived in the house with my siblings (who pay me enough rent to cover the mortgage) for 3 years, until 3 months ago when I moved to Phoenix. I have about 20 months left until I have to get my own financing, but now I am stuck on what I should do. My siblings still live there, the house definitely needs some fixes, and now I'm out of cash. My original plan was to hold it long-term as a rental. I genuinely don't know what my next steps are, so I am looking for some guidance. Any help is appreciated!

It sounds like you're in a pivotal moment with a lot of moving parts—seller financing coming due, repairs needed, siblings renting from you, and a move to a new state. Here are a few steps you can consider to help make an informed decision:

### 1. **Refinancing vs. Selling**
- **Refinancing**: Since you have about 20 months left before the balloon payment is due, it's essential to start considering your refinancing options now. With a 4% rate on the seller-financed deal, you'll want to compare current market rates to see if refinancing is affordable and makes sense. Begin reaching out to lenders to see if you can qualify for a conventional mortgage, especially considering your change in financial situation (living in Phoenix, out of cash).
- **Challenges**: If the home needs repairs, lenders may hesitate unless those issues are fixed. You might need to take out a repair loan (like an FHA 203(k) loan) as part of your refinancing if the home’s condition will affect its appraised value.

- **Selling**: If refinancing isn’t feasible due to cash flow or repair issues, selling the property could be an option. You’ll want to weigh the potential profits from selling versus the costs of selling and moving on. Consider:
- Can the property be sold as-is for a decent price in its current condition?
- How does the local market look for selling now vs. in 20 months?

### 2. **Evaluate the Condition of the House**
- With limited cash, repairs might feel overwhelming, but some issues can directly impact the home’s value or ability to refinance. Prioritize repairs that protect the house’s value, like roof issues, plumbing, or structural concerns.
- Consider low-cost cosmetic upgrades that could improve rentability or sale value. Even though you’re out of cash, you might be able to finance some repairs or negotiate with contractors for a payment plan.

### 3. **Rental Income and Management**
- Since your siblings pay rent that covers the mortgage, you have a buffer as long as they continue living there. However, you need to consider:
- **Future rent increases**: Can you adjust the rent to help cover potential repairs or property management costs if you’re managing from afar?
- **Property management**: If you plan to hold the property long-term, it may be worth hiring a property manager to handle maintenance, rent collection, and tenant issues, especially since you’re out of state.

### 4. **Long-Term Plan**
- If your original plan was to hold it as a rental, ask yourself if that still makes sense given your cash flow, repair needs, and financing options. You might still be able to hold it long-term if you can refinance and get through the repairs.
- If not, selling may help you free up cash to reinvest in something else (either in Phoenix or elsewhere).

### Next Steps
- **Consult a mortgage broker**: They can help you figure out if refinancing is an option and whether there are any programs that can accommodate your situation.
- **Get repair estimates**: Even if you don’t have cash now, it’s good to know what you're looking at cost-wise for critical fixes. If you can address the most important issues, it may open up refinancing options.
- **Evaluate the rental market**: Look at what similar homes in Indiana are renting for. If your siblings move out, could you continue renting it out to cover the new mortgage?

Your decision comes down to how long you want to hold onto the property and whether you can secure financing to make that happen. Balancing the need for repairs with your cash flow will be key.


Chris, thank you so much for breaking everything down with all that detail. This really helps me separate everything I have going on.

You are welcome !

Post: Why would a seller pay a buyer’s agent??

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

To sell it. Bc buyers can request to skip properties that don’t offer it. 

Post: Subject to and seller financing payments

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

Then I would really advise against it bc sub2 is not easy and mostly for people who cannot get any mortgage and it’s risky. 
I have a course on creative financing that covers both of these. 
to answer your question, When dealing with **seller financing** and **subject to** deals, the structure of the payments can vary depending on the agreement between you and the seller. Here's how it generally works for both scenarios:

### 1. **Seller Financing:**
In a seller-financed deal, the seller acts as the lender, and you make payments directly to them. Here’s how payments typically break down:

- **Principal and Interest**: This is the amount you pay to the seller based on the agreed-upon loan amount (purchase price) and the interest rate. The loan is often amortized over a set number of years, but the specific terms (e.g., interest-only payments, balloon payments, etc.) depend on your agreement.

- **Property Taxes and Insurance**:
- These payments are usually your responsibility as the buyer. In some cases, you may pay property taxes and insurance directly to the relevant authorities.
- **Escrow Option**: In some seller-financed deals, the seller may require you to pay an **escrow amount** that covers property taxes and homeowner’s insurance. This escrow would be included in your monthly payment to the seller, who then uses the funds to pay taxes and insurance on your behalf. This is similar to how a traditional mortgage works when a bank requires an escrow account.

**Example**: If your seller-financed payment includes an escrow, your total payment might look like this:
- Principal + Interest = $1,000
- Property Taxes + Insurance = $200
- **Total Monthly Payment to Seller** = $1,200

### 2. **Subject To Deals:**
In a **subject to** deal, you take over the seller’s existing mortgage payments, but the mortgage remains in the seller's name. Payments are generally structured as follows:

- **Existing Mortgage Payment**: You make the seller’s mortgage payments directly to their lender. This payment includes:
- **Principal and Interest**: Based on the original loan terms.
- **Escrow for Property Taxes and Insurance** (if applicable): If the seller’s mortgage already has an escrow account, the lender handles the property taxes and insurance, which are included in the monthly mortgage payment.

- **Seller Payments (if applicable)**: If you’ve agreed to pay the seller anything over and above the mortgage balance (such as equity in the property), you’ll make a separate payment to the seller. This could be structured as either a lump sum upfront or monthly payments over time.

**Example**:
- Mortgage payment to lender (P+I+Escrow) = $1,500
- Additional monthly payment to seller = $300
- **Total Monthly Outlay** = $1,800

### Key Points to Consider:
- **Seller Financing**: Payments can be structured with or without escrow. If escrow is not included, you’ll be responsible for paying property taxes and insurance separately.
- **Subject To**: You're responsible for maintaining the original mortgage, including escrowed taxes and insurance if they’re part of the loan. Any additional payments to the seller depend on your agreement.

In both cases, clarity in the agreement is crucial. It’s essential to document who is responsible for what payments and how they will be handled to avoid confusion down the road.

Feel free to ask more questions if you need clarification!

Fix your listing and consider the pricing. 

Post: Looking to buy my 1st multi-family property

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

The best deals are found before the hit any website tbh. I use PropStream and other platforms to find properties under market value. If you are interested in finding off market properties I can show you a few of my methods. 

Post: Seeking advice on expanding

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

I use DSCR for rentals. The BRRR method is only if you can add value to the property somehow. For that it's DSCR or bridge or interest only loan. I actually have a creative financing course that covers all the options from seller finance to sub2 to DSCR to rentals so if you have any further questions let me know as I have a student that bought rentals in your area due to student demand from the college.

Post: Rejecting an ESA

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

They aren’t tenants if you live with them. Your newly found allergy to pets can be a reason to deny since you live there. 

Post: Project(job) request via section 8 tenant

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

This is one reason I don’t use carpet. If it’s in bad shape get rid of it for LVP. Is this tenant your only option ?

Post: Strategy for Seller Financing

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

When approaching the seller about seller financing, especially given the unique nature of the property and potential challenges in selling it, it's essential to frame the conversation in a way that highlights the benefits for both parties. Here’s a step-by-step approach you can take:

### 1. **Do Your Research**

- **Understand Seller Financing**: Familiarize yourself with the mechanics of seller financing, including how it works, the benefits for sellers, and the risks. This knowledge will help you answer any questions the seller may have.

- **Market Analysis**: Gather data on the local market, including comparable sales, average days on the market, and trends. This will strengthen your position when discussing the property's value.

### 2. **Schedule a Meeting**

- **Set Up a Face-to-Face Meeting**: If possible, arrange to meet the seller in person. This creates a more personal connection and allows for a better discussion about the property and financing options.

### 3. **Build Rapport**

- **Acknowledge the Seller’s Situation**: Start the conversation by acknowledging the seller's desire to move further out and his long-term ownership of the property. Express understanding of his position and why he might be looking to sell.

- **Discuss the Property’s Unique Aspects**: Talk about what makes the property special and your appreciation for it, but gently introduce the reality of its market position.

### 4. **Introduce the Idea of Seller Financing**

- **Present It as a Solution**: Frame seller financing as a creative solution that benefits both parties. You could say something like:

- “Given the unique nature of this property and the current market conditions, have you considered seller financing? It could help attract buyers who may be hesitant due to the price point.”

- **Highlight Benefits for the Seller**:

- **Quicker Sale**: Explain that seller financing can make the property more appealing to potential buyers, increasing the chances of a quicker sale.

- **Income Stream**: Discuss how seller financing can provide him with a steady income stream while still retaining ownership of the property until the loan is paid off.

- **Tax Advantages**: Mention potential tax benefits of seller financing, as he may be able to spread out the capital gains tax liability over time.

### 5. **Address Potential Concerns**

- **Clarify Terms**: Be prepared to discuss terms, such as the down payment, interest rate, and duration of the loan. Having some preliminary figures in mind can help facilitate the conversation.

- **Reassure about Risk Management**: Address any concerns the seller might have regarding the risk of financing a buyer. You can suggest performing background checks, credit assessments, or offering a higher down payment to mitigate risk.

### 6. **Listen and Adapt**

- **Gauge His Reaction**: Pay attention to the seller's response and be open to his thoughts and concerns. This can lead to a more productive conversation and help you refine your proposal.

- **Be Flexible**: If he seems open to the idea, be willing to discuss different terms or options that might work for both of you.

### 7. **Follow Up**

- **Provide Written Details**: After your discussion, send a follow-up email summarizing the benefits of seller financing and any agreed-upon terms to keep the conversation going.

- **Stay Engaged**: Keep the lines of communication open and express your continued interest in the property, even if he needs time to think it over.

By approaching the seller with empathy, clear benefits, and a willingness to listen, you can effectively plant the idea of seller financing and potentially create a mutually beneficial arrangement. Good luck with your negotiations!

Post: Internet service for Duplex

Christopher Robert NolandPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 81
  • Votes 43

I don’t provide it.