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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 109 times.

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

Account ClosedPosted
  • Fairfax, MO
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Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Apparently no one gets it. According to this document, it was Clayton's 'dream' to move his family to Europe. You see, the plan was, start a real estate business in America, selling American properties, and then in 2 years uproot the family and young children to a non-English speaking country. It all makes sense! If you read Natali's nonsense blog posts, she says "the main motivation was the same thing that has pushed generations of parents across borders: to seek a better life for their family." That fits in perfectly with the narrative. She also says "This move is not to run. It is to heal!" So as you can see, this was all a very well thought out plan and dream for them.

 .......Now wait a second Chris. Just hold the phone right there. Now I know I am just a simple Keyboard Cowboy but on page 3 of the 40 page lawsuit Clayton Morris filed against me in federal court for my documentary about the Morris Invest Fraud Allegations he specifically stated that part of the reason I am being sued by him is because I disclosed "the location to which Mr. Morris had traveled with his family to escape harassment."

As said by @Jay Hinrichs in the documentary "Are you lying then, or are you lying now?"

Hmm- maybe it was all pre-planned. Maybe he had Portugal picked out from the beginning, enacted his plan to defraud investor, then escape harassment by fleeing to that country. He really did fulfill his dream!

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Apparently no one gets it. According to this document, it was Clayton's 'dream' to move his family to Europe. You see, the plan was, start a real estate business in America, selling American properties, and then in 2 years uproot the family and young children to a non-English speaking country. It all makes sense! If you read Natali's nonsense blog posts, she says "the main motivation was the same thing that has pushed generations of parents across borders: to seek a better life for their family." That fits in perfectly with the narrative. She also says "This move is not to run. It is to heal!" So as you can see, this was all a very well thought out plan and dream for them.

 If you believe that, I have some amazing ocean front property for sale in Montana.

Do you work for Morris Invest, Theresa?

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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  • Fairfax, MO
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Apparently no one gets it. According to this document, it was Clayton's 'dream' to move his family to Europe. You see, the plan was, start a real estate business in America, selling American properties, and then in 2 years uproot the family and young children to a non-English speaking country. It all makes sense! If you read Natali's nonsense blog posts, she says "the main motivation was the same thing that has pushed generations of parents across borders: to seek a better life for their family." That fits in perfectly with the narrative. She also says "This move is not to run. It is to heal!" So as you can see, this was all a very well thought out plan and dream for them.

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Tim Cern:

Man, Morris does not look good in his latest youtube video. Looks like he is really pressing. Really should have just admitted some kind of responsibility to his investors in the Indy ponzi in the first place. By continuing to bottle up the lies and pretend to be innocent you can see it on his face in this video. At this point he is only fooling himself. 

 Tim you are being a keyboard cowboy right now.

What about me??? I want to be a cowboy!

You may be one of the biggest keyboard cowboys out there Chris.

https://youtu.be/Tr7n_NLeJQE

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Tim Cern:

Man, Morris does not look good in his latest youtube video. Looks like he is really pressing. Really should have just admitted some kind of responsibility to his investors in the Indy ponzi in the first place. By continuing to bottle up the lies and pretend to be innocent you can see it on his face in this video. At this point he is only fooling himself. 

 Tim you are being a keyboard cowboy right now.

What about me??? I want to be a cowboy!

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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I posted this video on my YouTube, but of course the scumbags at Morris Invest put a copyright violation on it and it was taken down. This is a clip from a video they did a while back basically crying about how it's not their fault and playing the victim card all over again. It perfectly illustrates the out and out lies they are telling us and expecting us to believe. Of course they themselves fully believe this line of crap living in their reality distortion bubble. The text on the left is from the Morris Invest Facebook page. Of course that page has now been removed as they white-wash the past. The text reads: "We are a totally done for you rental investing company. That means we bring you great properties that we've fully rehabbed and rented out to great tenants. You just sit back and collect monthly rent checks." Emphasis mine.

Here's the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v29r...

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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Let's see how long it stays up

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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Originally posted by @JD Martin:

What the Philly thing sounds like to me is that they are starting to find that they need funds. People don't go from freewheeling spenders to thrifty dandies in a few months. I'd guess with neither of them "working" they are probably burning through money pretty quickly over there in Portugal. 

Hey now - how can you say they aren't working? This guy is working his *** off to con investors out of their money, while shutting everyone on the Internet up at the same time! I've never seen anyone work this hard!

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

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Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

On a positive note it looks like he's possibly switched gears and is no longer just going to ignore the fact that so much money was lost. Here is a quote from the link you posted...

Morris is coming to his hometown of Philadelphia to speak at a real estate conference on November 5 to discuss this horrible chain of events in his life and how he has survived it, doubling down on his efforts to teach others the power of being in control of your finances and your future.

I don't read it that way at all. I think he is absolutely going to continue to ignore the facts. He lives in a reality distortion bubble. I mean, read the first line of that document. He fulfilled the dream of moving his family to Europe? When was that a dream? He started a real estate business in the US two years earlier, yet he had a dream of moving to Europe and move his kids to a non-English speaking country? This makes no sense whatsoever. I think what @JayHinrichs has stated many times in the past is absolutely correct. Money became a drug and he continued to chase it. Plus I think it got to a point, with legal fees, etc. that it became necessary. This line of crap about him being financially free is just that - a line of crap. He needs money. He makes money doing what he's doing. Otherwise, he'd just go away. But he needs a continuous line of income coming in, so he keeps doing the only thing he knows. 

 Yea your probably right. I hadn't actually read the full document that was in that weird looking play window when I posted my comment. They had that quote they I posted here posted below the play window and I assumed the play window was going to be a promo video of some sort. 

When you go up into the play window and move around that document to read the whole thing there is some wild stuff in there like the obvious spin that moving to Europe was a dream. That's actually really funny that they are spinning moving to Europe as his lifelong dream now. Ya see, in his lawsuit against me his attorney cited the reason for their move to Portugal was to avoid continued harassment and they claimed I invaded his privacy by talking about it in my film lol.

All that said though I dunno I still feel like this is a bit of a change of course for him. I think his previous plan was to ignore this and hope it all goes away. I believe they've stated in their one video response after all the news coverage came out that they were going to talk about it once in that response then move on. Now he's gotta come all the way back to the USA and circle back to the topic, albeit with the above mentioned spin.

yep - I agree. He did think it would blow over and he would be able to continue with business as usual. I don't think he really gets what he's done. This guy has literally ruined hundreds of people's lives. And then he just continues on like nothing's happened. But when it didn't blow over, he had to change up. First by leaving the country. But his strategy is all wrong. In your video James, you had those two guys from High Return Real Estate on. They mentioned having to help get their clients out of this mess that they got into. And they mentioned that it has taken years so far and that they would throw a party when they finally get the last client settled. This is the strategy Morris should have taken. He should have made a list and said, "I'm going to make this right for everyone on the list. It may take years. It may cost 2 million dollars. But I'm going to continue to help these people until the last one is made whole." He would have been a hero. He would have been loved. Then he really could have put a message out there that he wants to help people acheive financial freedom. He would have had hundreds of people coming to his defense when all these articles were published and videos created instead of having them bash him in the comments. But he chose to turn his back on these people and play the victim card. It's not working out too well for him, and guess what - it's going to follow him around for the rest of his life. Honestly, it's not too late. He could adopt a new stategy and turn things around. I'd be willing to work with him if he did. What does he care if it costs him millions? He knows how to make money. He can make more money in the future. He's financially free!

I received a message from someone who had purchased a ticket to the Clayton Morris live event last night. You know the one where Clayton was going to get on stage in his home town of Philadelphia to set the record straight.........He canceled it. Never went on.

That's what I heard too- I'm very suspicious of this whole event... I feel like it was a honeypot set up by Clayton himself...

Very plausible given that this event marketing company is essentially unknown prior to this "event" they've got 37 likes on Facebook, pretty underwhelming for a "marketing company" with press credentials. 

In addition, when you click on their website link about Clayton's event their website doesn't even work.

Not only that - the elestprivatemarketgroup.co domain was created and registered on 7/17/19

Post: Clayton Morris / Morris Invest House of Cards starting to fall.

Account ClosedPosted
  • Fairfax, MO
  • Posts 113
  • Votes 169
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

On a positive note it looks like he's possibly switched gears and is no longer just going to ignore the fact that so much money was lost. Here is a quote from the link you posted...

Morris is coming to his hometown of Philadelphia to speak at a real estate conference on November 5 to discuss this horrible chain of events in his life and how he has survived it, doubling down on his efforts to teach others the power of being in control of your finances and your future.

I don't read it that way at all. I think he is absolutely going to continue to ignore the facts. He lives in a reality distortion bubble. I mean, read the first line of that document. He fulfilled the dream of moving his family to Europe? When was that a dream? He started a real estate business in the US two years earlier, yet he had a dream of moving to Europe and move his kids to a non-English speaking country? This makes no sense whatsoever. I think what @JayHinrichs has stated many times in the past is absolutely correct. Money became a drug and he continued to chase it. Plus I think it got to a point, with legal fees, etc. that it became necessary. This line of crap about him being financially free is just that - a line of crap. He needs money. He makes money doing what he's doing. Otherwise, he'd just go away. But he needs a continuous line of income coming in, so he keeps doing the only thing he knows. 

 Yea your probably right. I hadn't actually read the full document that was in that weird looking play window when I posted my comment. They had that quote they I posted here posted below the play window and I assumed the play window was going to be a promo video of some sort. 

When you go up into the play window and move around that document to read the whole thing there is some wild stuff in there like the obvious spin that moving to Europe was a dream. That's actually really funny that they are spinning moving to Europe as his lifelong dream now. Ya see, in his lawsuit against me his attorney cited the reason for their move to Portugal was to avoid continued harassment and they claimed I invaded his privacy by talking about it in my film lol.

All that said though I dunno I still feel like this is a bit of a change of course for him. I think his previous plan was to ignore this and hope it all goes away. I believe they've stated in their one video response after all the news coverage came out that they were going to talk about it once in that response then move on. Now he's gotta come all the way back to the USA and circle back to the topic, albeit with the above mentioned spin.

yep - I agree. He did think it would blow over and he would be able to continue with business as usual. I don't think he really gets what he's done. This guy has literally ruined hundreds of people's lives. And then he just continues on like nothing's happened. But when it didn't blow over, he had to change up. First by leaving the country. But his strategy is all wrong. In your video James, you had those two guys from High Return Real Estate on. They mentioned having to help get their clients out of this mess that they got into. And they mentioned that it has taken years so far and that they would throw a party when they finally get the last client settled. This is the strategy Morris should have taken. He should have made a list and said, "I'm going to make this right for everyone on the list. It may take years. It may cost 2 million dollars. But I'm going to continue to help these people until the last one is made whole." He would have been a hero. He would have been loved. Then he really could have put a message out there that he wants to help people acheive financial freedom. He would have had hundreds of people coming to his defense when all these articles were published and videos created instead of having them bash him in the comments. But he chose to turn his back on these people and play the victim card. It's not working out too well for him, and guess what - it's going to follow him around for the rest of his life. Honestly, it's not too late. He could adopt a new stategy and turn things around. I'd be willing to work with him if he did. What does he care if it costs him millions? He knows how to make money. He can make more money in the future. He's financially free!

I received a message from someone who had purchased a ticket to the Clayton Morris live event last night. You know the one where Clayton was going to get on stage in his home town of Philadelphia to set the record straight.........He canceled it. Never went on.

That's what I heard too- I'm very suspicious of this whole event... I feel like it was a honeypot set up by Clayton himself...