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All Forum Posts by: Charles LeMaire

Charles LeMaire has started 1 posts and replied 174 times.

Post: Passive Syndication vs. Getting Hands On

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

There are many avenues in RE.  I recall seeing dozens of choices at various conventions where someone would train you to do this or that for a fee.  Most may work, some may be scams, not sure.  A lot has to do with what a person wants to do.

Personally, before Paul's book, I followed essentially his instructions.  I have passively invested in many MF syndications since 2010 and done well.  I did get lucky and start during a great time, but I still invest as I think now is a good time.  I started knowing nothing about RE, but I fell in with a great mentor; I listened and learned and acted.  My $0.02!

Regards,

Charles LeMaire

PS. Read the Fairless/Hicks Best Ever book to round out your understanding of MF syndications. 

Post: Just another question on Coaching- 20k for 2 years

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

I assume your interest is MF, but you don't state your goals.  Are you interested in becoming a Sponsor or a Passive Investor?  In the network I am associated with, there are two levels: the less expensive level is great for the passive investor as one has access to the training and the networking events so that one can make those important relationships.  The more expensive level is for sponsors and includes the previous and access to coaches who can hold your hand as you move through the process.

I often suggest a person join in the first, test the waters, and if/when they are ready, make the leap.  I am much more comfortable investing with a sponsor who has walked in the shoes of an investor a few times, been a KP (Key Principal), etc and has a great coach to supply experience.

The ballpark numbers are $8K to $9K for the first tier and $28K to $30K for the second.  

I recall numbers around $10K about 10 years ago.

Regards,

Charles LeMaire

Post: Leaving W-2 in 6 weeks...seeking BP advice!!

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

My $0/02!  If passive is attractive to you, identify some MF sponsors that you would work with - some deals require you know the sponsor first.  Sell the property and in the same year (TIMING!) invest in a MF syndication that is using bonus depreciation (part of Trump tax).  The depreciation will offset gain on the house - so no big tax consequence (now).  

There is never a guarantee, but it will likely pay you about 8% and return another 30%-40% when sold.  Wash, Rinse, Repeat!  

A few financial planning points.  1. plan for your RMDs (if any).  2. plan for Medicare pricing, it increases as you make more.  3. consider Roth conversions now as the rates are low, if you have traditional.  

Regards,

Charles LeMaire 

Post: Limits on sophisticated / non-accredited investors syndications?

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

@Jordan Lamarre-Wan  & @Brian Burke   One comment.  Most of the deals I have seen give an upper limit on the amount an LP may invest, so as not to crest 20% (I think it's 20%).  This may not actually relate to the Reg D 506(b), but may instead be a lender limit on some loans.  I gather that any investor over 20% has to submit financials.

I defer to Brian on any specifics that he might add, as he is always terribly knowledgeable and accurate!

Regards,

Charles

Post: Mentorship Program Opinion

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

My MF journey, right or wrong, started in 2010 with Brad Sumrok.  Let me be clear, not the 5 units some speak of, but the 60+ units, usually 100+ apartments. All of the deals I've seen are via a Private Placement Memorandum (PPM) most using the SEC Reg D 506(b) exception, which requires a Sponsor knows Investor before the deal.

[There is also the (C) exception; advertising is allowed but no sophisticated investors are allowed.]

To create a MF syndication, one needs a resume to impress the broker and seller, funds to bribe the seller, pay the SECattorney and the contractors for due diligence, and plenty of qualified contacts with money to invest. In a seller's market, Sponsors have to put down some serious hard-money (potentially non-refundable) to get a deal started.  Less so in a Buyer's market.

To invest in MF via a syndication, one has to be Accredited (rich) or Sophisticated (knowledgeable) as the law protects the poor and stupid, preventing they from investing in PPMs.  You can simply say you're sophisticated, but it is so much better to learn and know what you're doing.  One has to have contact with one or more of the Syndication Sponsors.  And you need the money to invest; these are non-liquid 3 to 5 year deals, do not invest your emergency fund!  Typical minimums I've seen are $50K.  

My knowledge of other Mentoring programs is limited, but I think they are occasionally TRAINING (Buy my books & tapes at the back of the room), occasionally PROSPECTING (I have a deal; come invest with me), and occasionally more.  

I was lucky enough to find the "more" with Brad.  Not unlike others, he has a introductory/recruiting event, his R2R (Rat-race to Retirement, which happen 3 times a year).   The R2Rs are two day events. They give a great overview of the MF process, allowing the neophyte to decide if this is where he wants to be. And they include a bus-trip visit to 3 or 4 properties that students own to see what the investment looks like. 

There are two levels of membership: Personal Student and Foundations Student.  The Personal includes "hand-holding" & personal coaching; these are the folks that are potential Sponsors. Both levels include on-line training about the MF acquisition process, multiple all-day Networking Events each year; these events consist of bus trips to visit 5 or 6 properties that are for sale followed by a post network meeting and usually a dinner.   Most of the activities are in DFW, but DFW is the MF hotbed! The bus trips are both instructive and facilitate making those necessary contacts (Sponsors with Passives). 

As I see it, a coach/mentor brings experience, knowledge, access to contacts, credibility, access to a team, etc.  I think it can be done without a mentor, but having a mentor allows one to do it faster and without paying for big mistakes.

The group did 52 deals in 2018 and 58 deals in 2019.  Many deals had new Sponsors teamed with seasoned sponsors and it was not hard for Passives to deploy some money in to deals.

One of the most remarkable stats on the group is that over 170 members have increased their wealth by $1M in the past 6 years that Brad has had the Sumrok organization.

NO, I DO NOT WORK FOR HIM!  I do volunteer at his events as he has made me rich!

Regards,

Charles LeMaire

Post: Mentors and/ or Education Recommendations for Multi Family?

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

I'm a Brad Sumrok student.  I suggest you consider him as you examine possibilities.

Charles LeMaire

Post: Newbie Investor - Seattle, WA

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

@Jack Hemion   You mentioned being accredited and asked about MF experiences.

My MF journey started in 2010, me knowing nothing about RE, when I met my mentor, Brad Sumrok.  Personally I choose to invest passively. 

You mention Crowdfunding, I've not been there!  All of the deals I've seen are via a Private Placement Memorandum (PPM), most using the SEC Reg D 506(b) exception.  A bit of technical speak here, sorry.  The (b) allow Accredited (rich) and (up to 35) Sophisticated (knowledgeable) investors (the law protects the poor and stupid, preventing them from taking risks in PPMs) who are known by the Sponsor before the deal.  There is also the Reg D 506(c) exception where advertising is allowed, that is the relationship condition is dropped, but no sophisticated investors are allowed.

Back to me. I have entered 50 syndications, 17 have sold, the latest 2 days ago. The current door count is about 4500 in 6 states. [[Dear Moderator, YES, I only own a percentage of each door. Compared to that REIT in which you have 60K doors, if you know the names of all the builds, I acquiesce, but I'm not sure how else to say it.]]

I find having a mentor to be terrifically useful.  Choosing to use a mentor/coach trades some membership fee or training costs for speed, access, experience, and mistake avoidance.  As the Sumrok group is large and active, I have a near constant stream of deals I can choose to enter.  The group did 52 deals in 2018 and 58 deals in 2019. A stat I really like is that over 170 members have increased their wealth by $1M in the past 6 years.  

Regards,
Charles LeMaire

Post: Raising Money for Syndication--Do They Need to be Part of the GP?

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

You did not ask the related question about splitting the pie according to the amount raised.  I am not an attorney, just an active investor.  I am given to believe there are various opinions on this, but the majority of SEC attorneys that have presented to our group say this is not allowed.  Pick one and be sure he wants to endorse your position.

Charles

Post: Solo 401k for real estate investing

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

I suspect you see folks move from an SDIRA to a QRP/Solo-401K to avoid UBIT / UDFI.

Post: Track record of RAJ GUPTA and ANNA SIMPSON

Charles LeMairePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • DFW TX
  • Posts 179
  • Votes 259

I was a passive in Tuscany in Arlington, TX, Anna's first deal. I got about 35% IRR (annualized return).

I am also in one deal that has not gone full cycle that Raj is a co sponsor on — no complaints.

Charles LeMaire