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All Forum Posts by: Jeffrey Charter

Jeffrey Charter has started 4 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: How do I find "Real" Buyers?

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3

Bandit signs in front of the property and at the end of the street with keywords like "Cash only", "TLC Needed", "AS-IS", "Handyman Special"..

At RE auctions pass out flyers of the property to bidder. If it is a deal they will buy, and then you can add them to your list.

Post: Correct me if I'm wrong!!

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Giovanni Isaksen:
@Jeffrey Charter It's true that given a fixed amount of NOI, the higher the cap rate the lower the price but from our perspective price does not equal value. This is because we are searching for mis-priced properties; specifically those whose price is less than their value.

I'm not sure if your question was specifically about price and value as much as the effect on price from different cap rates. In my forthcoming book "The Value Investors Guide to Apartment Buildings" I use this illustration to show the relationship between cap rate and price given a certain amount of NOI:

Good hunting-

Thanks Giovanni,

Since Iam still learning about MFs I doubted myself when challenged by a broker I'am working with. The current cap rate was around 7% @1.2mm, I mention I will not offer more than 875K and I only look at properties with a 10% cap. She said 10% cap was going to put the purchase price higher. I thought I had missed something when she told me that, but I knew I was correct. My question was specifically about the effect on prices from different cap rates.

Post: Correct me if I'm wrong!!

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Daniel Ringwald:
A high cap rate could be the result of a relatively high net operating income or a relatively low purchase price or a combination of both...

Cap Rate % = Net Operating Income / Purchase Price

ie. $1,000 / $10,000 = .1 or 10%

Cap rate can change from 10% to 20% in the following ways:

20% = $2,000 / $10,000 Increase in Net Operating Income by $1000

20% = $1000 / $5000 Purchase Price is reduced by $5000

20% = $1500 / $7500 Change in NOI and Purchase Price

Yes, like bonds. The higher the risk the greater the yield. Whereas the less risk and more stablility,the higher the price and smaller yield.

Post: Correct me if I'm wrong!!

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3

The higher the cap rate the lower the purchase price and value! Right?

Thanks

Post: Deal Or No Deal?

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3

Asking Price: $52,000

Purchase Price: $41,000

Gross annual Rent: $21600

Insurance -$150

Sewer -$60

Taxes -$50

Trash -$60

Water -$50

Lawn/Snow Care -$50

Property Management -$180 ($1800 x 10%)

Capital Improvements -$180 ($1800 x 10%)

Repairs/Maintenance -$270 ($1800 x 15%)

Vacancy - $216 ($1800 x 12%)

Gross annual Expenses: $14592

NOI= $7008 ($1800 minus $1216)

Debt Service P&I: -$2640 annually (20yr term @ 5% with No down payment)

Cashflow= $4368 annual (NOI minus debt service)

Cap Rate= 17%

I agree with Bill about deferred maintenance.

Also

To many $4368 is a lot of cash, but you have to ask is it enough for my time and effort that I am going to put into this property. Some people say buy and hold is passive investing, it really isn't, and at that price point i'm sure you are going to run into a few unseen headaches.

Post: Which debt to pay off first and why?

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Aaron Mazzrillo:
I say don't pay off either. If you learn how to manager your money, those are some pretty low interest rate loans. By paying them off, you are investing you money at 3.375-4.5%. You can get much better returns in real estate. Even if you had that amount in cash, you could easily lend it out at 10-12% to other investors and use the income stream to pay down the principal balances.

Put your money to work and use the return to pay down the lower interest rate loans without sacrificing your working capital.

If this were me, I would focus on bringing in more income. Maybe if I had enough to payoff the entire debt, I would consider it. But if I didn't have another 100 grand I would lose the purchasing power of that money.

Like Aaron said, you can put the money to work for you and get a greater return. Create enough income, and pay the debt off at a later time.

100k in school loans wow!!! Did you get a degree in Medicine?

Post: Duplex came with Drug Dealers

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @K. Marie Poe:
Originally posted by @Jeffrey Charter:
Yea, it could be a problem. You would have to disclose to other potential tenants that want to move in, the aroma could carry over to their unit. Then if they have a problem with the smell they may want out, or stop paying rent.
pro:

You have paying tenants.

Cons:

Slippery slope. Property might get stigmatized and you could lose potential good future tenants.

The lease should have a clause in it about "illegal activities" Contact your attorney to find out the next step.

btw.... legalize it already

I'm with you on the legalize it already. But even with legalization there are so many issues remaining for landlords. Smoking is smoking, whether it's smoke from tobacco or marijuana or cloves, it's smells and, depending on proximity, it's second hand smoke. Smokers and non smokers in the same building is usually a problem. There are a ton of other options for using cannabis but it's going to get weird if (when) it's legal and all the landlord can do is have a no smoking rule.

Absolutely, I agree smokers and non-smokers don't mix. I lived in a townhome and my neighbor was a heavy smoker. The aroma would seep through to our unit. My wife was always bothered by the smell. Me, I had no problem. There would have to be a no smoking rule from here on out. Possible a designate smoking spot for the tenants that smoke.

Post: Duplex came with Drug Dealers

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3

Yea, it could be a problem. You would have to disclose to other potential tenants that want to move in, the aroma could carry over to their unit. Then if they have a problem with the smell they may want out, or stop paying rent.

pro:

You have paying tenants.

Cons:

Slippery slope. Property might get stigmatized and you could lose potential good future tenants.

The lease should have a clause in it about "illegal activities" Contact your attorney to find out the next step.

btw.... legalize it already

Post: Contractor Partnerships Fair Profit Split

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3

This is done all the time. Joint Ventures. Each partner brings something to the table.

Example: The equity partner owns vacant land and has the funds to develop the land, but doesn't have the construction or developement background.

The other partner has experience in development/construction, repositioning and dispositions.

50/50 might be to large of a risk as there is no incentive for the contractor to put foward his best effort.

If I had this opportunity I would set it up where I would get an preferred return of 8% and a 75/25 split.

Have the contractor also add funds into the project for materials and labors.

and having all the terms spelled out and agreed to before forming the partnership.

A suggestion on setting up the partnership payout.

http://www.ccim.com/cire-magazine/articles/splitting-profits

Post: Underutilized Site in Orlando, Ideal for Redevelopment

Jeffrey CharterPosted
  • Investor
  • Waldorf, MD
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 3

Is there a way to put it under contract? Im thinking wholesale or straight Option