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All Forum Posts by: Curtis Gabhart

Curtis Gabhart has started 10 posts and replied 92 times.

Post: Marketing Plan Strategies

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

First what niche are you going to focus on?
Second if you have your real estate license yup are going to want to use a buyer rep agreement and/or listing and commission agreements.

Investors are EASY to find but you need to learn how to properly qualify them. Here's a hint when you ask an investor what they want to buy and they say a "good deal" move on to the next person.

If your doing apartments I'll get you some info that should help. If you ever find something for sale in San Diego I may be interested.

I buy short sales all the time and buy them through agents. It's a VERY easy sell but I'm not trying to do anything funny.

We give offers with little or no contingencies, big deposits, no loan contingencies and usually something is wrong with the property.

I don't have enough info to help you. What I can tell you is a lot of people try to do things that are illegal and they don't realize it.

What are you proposing to the realtors?

Post: landlord liability for tenent's dog bite

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

If it wasnt on your property your probably ok.
Tt a lawyer though of course.and if you do lose bite the dog.

Post: How do you pay team members?

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

To expand on Eric's point. Work for free or to get experience and get your resume built.

Get experience.

Post: Potential private investor

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

What we do with potential investors is to have a simple meeting at MY office if possible or a neutral place of my choice.

The first meeting is really to get to know each other not to hard sell someone. As a matter of fact I go into the meeting knowing that there may not be a fit.. I may not feel comfortable working with them and vice versa.

If you have that attitude it will help (don't be cocky). Just sit down wih the guy and listen and find out what HE is looking for. Don't try to hammer out a deal just try to get an idea of what his expectations are.

Break a leg

Post: 30 unit complex or 30 sfr's - What would you choose and why?

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

Houses in general are going to be less for expenses because generally the tenants pay all the utilities.

On the other hand if you have 30 houses as opposed to 1 30 unit complex it will be much more expensive and a lot more work since they are not in the same location.

If you can get a 30 unit building it's much more efficient and easier to manage to 30 homes.

Think about it... Let's say you want to drive by your property... 30 of them takes a lot of time.

Renting them out.... 30 separate locations, 30 separate ads, 30 mortgage statements, tax bills, utility bills, landscape bills...

You can get apartment financing right now at about 5%.

Post: How to find the ARV of a multi-family

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

btw I was not trying to be critical or overly harsh like it sounded just trying to make a point that there may be more effective methods of accomplishing your goals.

Post: How to find the ARV of a multi-family

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

Sounds like you may be wasting your time and a lot of other peoples.

1) If you can't figure out the ARV a few posts on this board isn't going to help. It actually may be dangerous because you may think you know how to buy and operate apartments.
2) In hundreds of transactions I really can't think of 1 where there was an absolute as is value and then a 50% discount applied. People make there money because they buy buildings that they are able to add value to because they are an expert in that niche and knows what other buyers over look.

Who in there right mind gives away a property at 50 cents on the dollar when the market will give them 100? Even if you have 10 million in the bank cash the likely hood is small you are going to be successful using the machine gun offer approach.

As a matter of fact by the time you do realize how to underwrite apartment buildings your credibility will have been lost. You'll be the boy who cried wolf.

In summary you need to be an expert in the market niche you are buying so you can spot deals at 50-60% ltv because if it is obvious a building is 50-60% the property will be bid up to 90-100%.

Post: How to find a cap rate

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

1) If you plan on getting financing you are going to need to get an idea of the market metrics like
CAP, GRM, Price per unit, Price per square foot.

Otherwise how are you going to know how much can be financed and how much money you need?

In addition you need to find out the market rents for similar properties and expenses. The best way to do this is to 1) call the owners directly and 2) talk to brokers who specialize in those niches and sold/listed the properties you are comping out.

You should know all of this before you even go shopping for properties. If not you'll never know if a deal is good or not when it is sent to you and you'll either buy something that was a bad deal or pass up a good deal because you don't know what you are looking for.

As far as buying a property based on current numbers or market numbers are just a few pieces to the puzzle. It's all just part of the theory of proper investing and an opinion.

For example I can pay a higher than market price based on a cap rate for a property that is under performing as long as I know I can increase my NOI and come out better than buying a property with a market CAP at a market price.

The reason you want to know the CAP rate and other metrics is you have to start with the fundamentals of analyzing investment properties and those metrics are where you start.

A lot of people say you can't look at cap, you can't you at grm, you can't you can't you can't.

Well those are general statements and are usually further down the line, but you need to start somewhere.

First you need to figure out what you are trying to accomplish when buying an income property. Start with general ideas and start filtering them down into specific measurable items.

Step 1 - Your experience level, money, credit, do you need a partner?, are you getting a loan or seller carry
back or some other creative financing mechanism.

Step 2 Based on the criteria above start with Size, location, condition, down payment, return expectations

Step 3 At this point you should have narrowed down what you are looking for (if you don't narrow down your searches you'll chase your tail or at least shoot your eye out.

Start looking at see if you can find any properties that matches your criteria. If not go back to the drawing board to see if your expectations are realistic.

I used to get people calling me all the time in San Diego looking for 8 CAP rates. Well that was a waste of time so at that point you either move to a different market, adjust your expectations or wait on the sidelines in the hope that the market will change from a 6 cap to a 8 cap.

When you have established your criteria and started looking you will THEN learn what the market is for the different metrics including rents, expenses, cap, grm etc.

Once you have learned the market when a deal comes across your desk you will know if it is a deal or not

So how do you come up with your offer price.

1) know the market. If you don't how do you expect to be able to negotiate well. If you only know what you wish for without any type of reality check you will most likely waste everyone's time. I see this with new investors all the time by thinking because carlton sheets tells them to make 50% off offers it flies. Well it may occasionally but most of the time it ruins your credibility and any chances of coming to a successful close.

Know the market by asking the questions up above and driving and surveying every property that has sold in the last 12 months, pending, active, expired and canceled.

Take notes on the properties like condition location etc. Then call the agents who sold/list the property and find out more information.

Do a rent survey in the area to find out if the rents are market or below market. Find out what the expenses should be in the area.

Now you can apply those numbers across the board to come up with true values. If for example you see something under rented and selling at a 7 x grm you can apply market rents and see what the actual grm is.

By knowing these things better than the other side you can come back to them with an educated counter based on some facts.

If you then also try to look at the negotiations from there point of view you. Why are they selling, whats important to them (not always money). How can you help them achieve that...

Put all that together and it gives you a better idea how to value the property you are buying and how to negotiate that price.

btw - if you are expecting a 15% cash on cash and the market is only 7% hopefully you figured that out way before you started putting in offer because the likely hook of you achieving that is remote.

Post: Met with a Mentor Today.....

Curtis GabhartPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 54

Get your real estate license and start working with investors. You'll get paid better than bird dogging and learn WAY more than you will ever learn otherwise.

I will say it is a TON of work mentoring. I have 2 full time interns who are working with me this summer who are just completing their final year at sdsu.

It is very rewarding for me but an unbelievable amount of work trying to show them everything I do and why. Everything takes 3 times as long.

The only thing I am asking from them is to write down everything I am showing them so I can review and make sure they understand what I M trying to get across to them. Also I want them to write it down to help the next interns.

In addition I am having them post on my blog what they are learning. It's interesting to see how there view of the business is changing.

They say the biggest revelation is how hectic the business is and the incredible work ethic it takes to succeed.

Good luck and get your real estate license.