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All Forum Posts by: Caleb Heimsoth

Caleb Heimsoth has started 26 posts and replied 7507 times.

Post: Interesting Situation. Comments are appreciated.

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Jose De La Macorra. As others have said you are making this too complicated. You could seller finance it with zero money down at 0 interest for 12 years at 1200 a month or pay something up front with a low interest rate.

At the end of the day you need to own it today, not maybe tomorrow. Anything short of that isn’t worth the risk.

Post: What are your thoughts on this "conspiracy theory"?

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Ty Whitman I have been seeing people say they’re waiting for a huge downturn since 2016. I even called for a mild downturn at the beginning of covid and I was wrong.

There isn’t really any evidence of a downturn anytime soon. Keeping to much cash is definitely not a good idea

Post: First crack at a purchase has been discouraging.

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859
Originally posted by @John Kernen:

@Caleb Heimsoth

What are your thoughts on a cash out refinance vs a Heloc? Originally planned to refi and then get a HELOC. Would a cash out refi be a better alternative?

I would cash out refinance if possible, but it depends on your situation. HELOCs can be frozen by banks.  A refinance cannot as long as you make the payment.

Post: First crack at a purchase has been discouraging.

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859
Originally posted by @Greg Scott:
Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

@John Kernen you are correct, borrowing from your 401k or worse liquidating it to buy rental property is not a good idea. In general, it’s a bad idea.

Why do you believe borrowing from your 401k a bad idea?   I'm not a fan of mutual funds and don't like the stock market.  With my employer's 401k, my only other alternative is a money market fund paying about 1%.  Why would I not borrow that (from myself) and make 20%?

Why do you believe that liquidating funds from a 401k is a bad idea?  Assuming I can find mutual funds that can perform as well as my real estate investing (unlikely), the long-term results of a 401k are terrible.   At 59 1/2 I have to start pulling that money out as ordinary income for which I pay a lot of taxes.  If I keep investing in real estate, can structure it to pay no taxes.  Even better, all those taxes that I never pay get wiped out when I die and my heirs never pay the tax. 

I use every option I have to pull money out of my 401k and am so much better off for having done so.

If you leave your job or lose it you often have to pay that back immediately.  Liquidating it before 59 1/2 is a bad idea because you’ll pay the taxes and the penalty. 
Its not necessarily always a bad idea to borrow from your 401k but for the vast majority of people it’s a bad idea.

Post: First crack at a purchase has been discouraging.

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@John Kernen you are correct, borrowing from your 401k or worse liquidating it to buy rental property is not a good idea. In general, it’s a bad idea.

You can use money from your primary residence refinance and saved after tax money. That’s the best way to get started

Post: I'm getting my butt kicked

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Nic S. Buying long distance is half the battle and that won’t be changing anytime soon. Think about it like this.. you lost money on rentals while the stock market goes up 15-20 percent this year. The opportunity cost of doing this year after year is very great

Post: 2020 was rough (considering changes)

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Jason Malabute selling is your best bet. There is massive opportunity cost throwing more money after bad investments

Post: New REI looking to purchase Turnkey Property OOS.. any advice?

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Juan Rivera yes my advice is very simple. Don’t buy turnkey property long distance. It’s not a good investment

Post: 2020 was rough (considering changes)

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Jason Malabute are these properties long distance? Are they single family?

These issues will continue post pandemic, depending on the type of asset you own. If it’s long distance and In a “rental” neighborhood this will continue.

The market is very hot, I recommend selling if the equity is there

Post: Mortgage Hacking: Why I Paid My Mortgage Six Months in Advance

Caleb HeimsothPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 7,695
  • Votes 7,859

@Scott Benton I am still a youngish investor and have learned that developing tough skin when the market goes up or down (mainly when it’s down) and when things don’t go as planned is a skill I am still working on.

That being said paying that much ahead (6 months) in this low interest rate environment is not a good idea from a purely objective investment point of view. You can easily make 3X that return with minimal additional risk.