Originally posted by @Caryn Zallnick:
Originally posted by @Brian Dickerson:
On the BRRRR's we've done, all with conventional 75% LTV cash out refis, the lender did not ask for projected income. Six month seasoning and they will lend it based on the appraised value. If you're getting up higher in the # of conventional mortgages you have maybe that's when it would matter more. If they needed it, I imagine you could just use projections as if it were a LTR.
Did you refinance from hard money? What do you mean by six month seasoning?
I guess that would make sense because it's not a requirement to have a tenant in place in order for them to fund the loan correct?
So an ideal BRRRR gets you all or most of your initial money (purchase + rehab costs) back through the cash out refi. In order to get the cash out refi to give you 75% loan to value on the appraised value AFTER you have rehabbed the property, conventional lenders usually require you to 'season' (wait) 6 months since the initial purchase. There are ways around that through delayed financing & including the rehab costs on the HUD statement but that's more involved; or commercial lenders also don't all require that 6mo seasoning either.
The way you bought the property initially (cash/hard money etc) doesn't matter, but yes the refi pays that off. In my experience, conventional lenders don't require a tenant in place to finance / cash out refi an investment property.