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All Forum Posts by: Brandy Johnson

Brandy Johnson has started 6 posts and replied 33 times.

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Steven Velasquez:

@Brandy Johnson - Way to go Brandy! You've received some sage wisdom from the people in this thread. May I recommend a simply fantastic book on negotiation? I have listened to it three times and it won't be the last time either. "Gambits" they call them. Knowing which gambit to apply in the different situations will help you in your bright future.

http://www.audible.com/pd/Business/Weekend-Millionaire-Secrets-to-Negotiating-Real-Estate-Audiobook/B0182L1VHO

 Awesome! Thank you, Steven. I will take all the help I can get

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Adrienne Bryson:

Congrats @Brandy Johnson

 Thank you, Adrienne!

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

If you are $5k apart and can't meet in the middle because you are concerned you can't make enough on the deal...then your margin is not high enough here. $2500 is not an amount to worry about unless it's a property you shouldn't buy. 

My response was in reference to the comment to just give him the asking. I could meet in the middle, it was $1000 higher than my MAO but I was hesitant to do it being inexperienced in REI. I appreciate all the comments here.

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Thoai Han:

@Brandon Shewbridge great advice.
@Brandy Johnson congrats on the deal! With technology nowadays, is there a reason you don't want to email him the contract and he return it to you signed and dated?

 Thank you! Because I am completely green and didn't even consider that option lol. I will do better but I am learning

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Brandon Shewbridge:

Can you call him now or should you wait was the question right?

So many investors forget that they are actually selling too when acquiring. You are pitching to the seller that he should part with his house for your money. You are selling them on why they should give it to you at a less than market rate. If investors were just buying, they would be paying what the sellers are asking without any negotiating.

Given that, you just learned your first sales 101 lesson.  Never leave the current appointment without setting the next one.  In some cases you should set it for them and instead of asking what time, suggest two times and let them pick. 

Given the information that you have provided regarding his attachment, I would have handled it by saying something like this: ”Mr. Seller, I know this house is important to you and I want you to make sure you are ready to sell it.  I do have other properties that I am considering in addition to this one. I don't want to give your money to someone else without giving you a little bit of time to consider it.  My final offer will stand for 24 hours and I'll call you at this time tomorrow for your answer." 

First you would have established better rapport and more credibility by sympathising with his attachment to the house. It also would have put him temporarily at ease assuring him that you want to make sure he's ready to sell. It helps take the pressure off.  Second, you're letting him know that the money is his, but that you could take it away if he doesn't accept your offer. It's just a gentle reminder of the potential negative consequences. Last you are effectively setting the next appointment. By setting the time of the call you've given him a deadline about when the decision needs to be made, and you've given yourself the time that you will have your answer.

 Thanks for the info! I will know better for the next deal :)

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3

Just wanted to post an update. The seller contacted me today and accepted my offer. I am meeting him again on Thursday to sign my contract.

Post: What's the process for closing deals in "Attorney" States??

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3

Wow so much info and exactly what I needed. Thanks to all the commenters, now I have a better plan!

Post: Attorney

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3

Great info, I am in this situation now. Wish I had read this thread first lol

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Aaron Mazzrillo:
Originally posted by @Brandy Johnson:
Originally posted by @Aaron Mazzrillo:

So you've increased your offer by $15,000 and he dropped his asking price by $2,500? You have a lot more to learn about negotiation than worrying if you should wait a day to contact the seller or not.

When you make that big of a move, the other side knows you probably can move some more. You can't go $15,000, then $1,500. He is out-negotiating you and you are on the verge of appearing needy. What you should have done was made your initial offer and when he countered you, you then say that you always put your best offer first because you don't like to play games and get into a bidding war. Then, if you have room, up your offer by just a little just as he has reduced his. In reality, you have much less room than he does. If the property is free and clear, he can go all the way down to zero. You on the other hand have expenses and margins to deal with.

 No i increased my initial offer by 1500. He wanted to meet in the middle after my initial offer which was almost 20k lower than his asking. I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from.

 My error. I misread your post. Thanks for clarifying.

 No problem, Aaron. Thanks for your comments.

Post: Question about Negotiating Deals

Brandy JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, NC
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Adrienne Bryson:

Hmm... It's possible he's not 100% committed to selling.  He "wants" to sell but from that information alone sounds like he doesn't "need" to sell.  Those deals are harder to work.

Just keep plugging along!  He'll let you know if he is willing to deal, otherwise...on to the next!

 Exactly, thanks for the suggestion. His wife was pushing him to make the deal so I'm sure she will have him calling me soon enough lol