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All Forum Posts by: Deborah Burian

Deborah Burian has started 64 posts and replied 1062 times.

Post: Are ADU’s allowed in Oklahoma City?

Deborah Burian
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
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You do have to be zoned at least R2 (in Oklahoma City that is two dwelling units on one lot). Last time I talked to the city about this issue, they were very unwilling to have ADUs in single family zoning.  I was advised that I could apply for exemption but to not hold my breath. To the extent that they are present in single family zoned areas, it is likely they were grandfathered in a number of years ago.  Be aware that should a grandfathered dwelling unit be lost to a catastrophe, it most likely cannot be replaced.  In some of the historic areas we'll see additional garage apartments that exceed the approved zoning.  If those are lost, they will not, generally speaking, be approved for replacement.  Though not necessarily a deal-breaker, one would want to be aware of the potential for lost income.

Post: REI Nation (Memphis Invest) Case Study - Barltett (Memphis), TN

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Not in Oklahoma City but I personally know of a deal where the buyer went $30,000 over appraisal because of a lack of inventory in that market. We have a lack of affordable inventory here in OKC right now. Will there be another bust? Market cycles tell us yes, there always is, so if you’re over-paying now, you better be prepared to hang on later.

Post: Would you 1031 exchange or keep this investment?

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Originally posted by @Priscilla Y.:

Last year when I first heard about OKC I couldn't quite find many discussions about it, but seems like it's getting hot right now.

Please understand that OKC has been quite hot for a few years now which has pushed prices up to where they often don't make sense for cash flow in more stable neighborhoods.

Post: New from Oklahoma City

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@Will Fraser @Son Tran, like everywhere else in Oklahoma City proper, conditions and values vary vastly from block to block.  The "high" prices in what may appear to be challenged areas reflect a multitude of variables. 

For example: To the west of Pennsylvania, between 25th and 30th, is the Shepherd Historic District. It is on the National Register of Historic places and the prices there have been through the roof for at least 5 years. it is comprised of wonderful brick Revised-Tudor homes with whimsical architecture and is a truly lovely place. 

Literally the next block on the east side of Penn is a class D war zone with drive by shootings and the whole works. Immediately upon crossing 23rd to the south or 30th to the north, conditions deteriorate, sometimes rapidly, however, intermittently to the south, one finds blocks of grand old homes restored to their former glory.  To the west, between Villa and May, Cleveland and Venice neighborhoods are jewels. 

As times and preferences change and people return to the urban core, these older homes become of more interest both because of location and because of architecture and build quality. 15 years ago, Shepherd, referenced above, was no better than class C and portions of it were war zones as well. All of this is to say, broad categorizations don't work in Oklahoma City (and probably not anywhere else) it's one of the reasons out of state investors can be ill-served, there is too much variation.  All one can do is drive those blocks, look at those properties, talk to the neighbors and do one's level best to calculate where change is coming from next. 

Post: Need some beginners advice

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@Hunter McCook , just FYI, Augusta has a pretty active investor group, it's called AORE (Art of Real Estate Investing.) I am not affiliated with them in anyway but they have some smart folks and if you google it, their meetings should turn up.

Post: Need Advice: Looking at this 2% rule 3 unit prop as my 2nd Deal

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@Jordan Alexander, we have owned and managed properties very like what you are talking about in Oklahoma City. The devil is in the details and the details are many, from utilities to lawn care to managing parking and tenant conflicts. Feel free to PM me and we can talk specifics.

Post: Relo to CO, 5 doors already, seek 80/10/10 mortg +recommendations

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If you can find a property, add Broomfield to your list, it's Boulder school district so very good schools but not as pricey, tho' not inexpensive, as some areas.

Post: Networking while in town (KCMO)

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As a complete non-sequitur, where are your Section 8s in Oklahoma and what has your overall experience been? Thanks.

Post: Marijuana Industry and Real Estate Investing

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@Levi Ballard - Wow. Just, wow.

Post: Best places to invest in OKC: ARV - $100k-150k?

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Regrettably, Oklahoma City Schools are universally appalling. Stick with the suburbs if that's your main criteria.