Originally posted by @Shane Short:
Hey everyone, my question is regarding long term house-hacking and moving away from it. I see a lot of people commenting on here that they are treating house hacking differently since instead of trying to profit it, their goal is just to have to pay a minimal amount of the mortgage, like 10% or so. This is great for a few years, but what happens long term? I see others commenting not to worry as much about the 1% rule in these situations.
The way I look at it, no one is going to want to live in a house hacking environment for 30 years until their mortgage is up. So shouldn't you be treating a house hack exactly the same as a potential rental? Once you move out, you are going to want to be getting some cash flow off of it, or at least break even to gain some equity buildup/ HELOC advantages to use as leverage for another cash flowing property correct?
As someone who has house hacked a few times. By house hack, I mean we have done the buy a duplex live in one side thing. And we also have moved into a SFH, lived a year or two, thenbought a new house and rented the one behind us.
I generally say that "returns" are not as important in a house hack, and I believe it to be true for a few reasons.
Usually a house hack is being done by someone trying to get into real estate investing for the first time. Just getting into the game with a so/so property you dont mind living in for a couple of years does the most important thing, it breaks the ice and gets you into the game. I would rather someone new get started with a so/so deal than not do any deal at and never get started.
There isnt anything wrong with taking a semi low cash flow for a little nicer property that you dont mind living in. And if you live in the house for a couple of years, the costs are fixed, the rents hopefully are going up 2-3% a year, and the price of the property goes up 2-3% a year, and you have a couple of years of paydown of the mortgage. Those couple of years take a mediocre deal and likely turns it into a decent deal in terms of financial returns.
And if the market goes negative, the worst case is you are in a house that you are willing to live in.
You are able to put less down, so there is an increase in leverage that you can employ which all other things being equal improves your return.
I believe if you are looking at a house that you will live in, you will end up as a more discriminating buyer and will be pushed to up and coming neighborhoods.
Overall, you dont want to buy a "bad deal" just because you are house hacking, but at the same time if you plan on living in the property with an affordable mortgage, you can buy a year or two until the property is actually making a decent return