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All Forum Posts by: Andrew P.

Andrew P. has started 8 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: First Deal as a Newbie

Andrew P.
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Thank you I appreciate it.  Time will tell if I'm making a great decision or a horrible one.  I can see it going either way but I'm excited to figure it out pending everything moving forward.

Originally posted by @Ryan Ricciardelli:

@Andrew P. 

1.  Congrats!  It is so important to get the wheels moving.  Don't belittle the deal or the action you are taking... action is better than no action!

2. 10% Cash on Cash return certainly isn't something to diminish. While it is possible to find deals that generate greater CoC returns. it is most certainly solid and when combined with the equity side (mortgage pay down, any appreciation) it should generate a solid return (as long as you manage it effectively and the property can attract tenants).

3.  If you self manage the property you may be eligible for certain tax benefits/breaks.  I don't want to go down a rabbit hole but you may receive additional benefits from this property besides the cash and equity returns.  Do some research and keep this in mind when you're contemplating the total benefits of this property!

"The rung of the ladder was not meant to be rested on." - Chinese proverb

Post: First Deal as a Newbie

Andrew P.
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@Jonathan Greene I did not factor in PM as I live close to the house and would like to self manage this one.  I did factor in insurance, taxes, and mortgage into the fixed costs.  Variable costs are factored in as well.  I could pay the mortgage indefinitely with my W2 income if needed so I'm not concerned there.  The 5% vacancy number is probably low but the 7% on repairs and 7% on capex feel high to me with a new HVAC, Roof, Paint, Carpet, etc.  It's definitely a risk, and I get that.  I'm just trying to get my feet wet in this arena and this seems like the best thing I have found thus far.  Thanks for your input I really appreciate it!

Originally posted by @Jonathan Greene:

Your calculations are probably way off. Did you factor in PM (if you will use it), insurance, etc? Read what @Joe Villeneuve said in his last post. Do you have six months reserves and then some to plan for what will happen when you pay market value for an investment and then, even though it looks good, something breaks right away and shoots two years of profit in one fix. I'd get a bit tighter on the metrics. Is your area really only 5% vacancy on a 2 BR single-family home?

Post: First Deal as a Newbie

Andrew P.
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Hi @Joe Villeneuve, thanks for the feedback.  The property has a brand new roof and brand new HVAC so the main capex items should be covered at least for a while.  In my market its pretty common to get 10-15 years or more out of both of these items.  The driveway is not in the greatest shape but its a small driveway so it shouldn't even be close to $6000 (using previous concrete work as a barometer)  On #5, personally I learn more by doing than watching.  Also the few PMs I have talked to so far cared way more about getting my money than sharing any useful information.  I get it though, they have a business to run.  I was hoping to leverage the information here as well as some knowledgable friends and see what I could do given my proximity but I totally get your point.  On #6 I don't really know what you mean?  I'm thinking buy and hold, I threw 10 years out there but yes it could be way more or way less depending on what I learn through the process.  Thanks again!

Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @John Moore:

So @Joe Villeneuve what is your recommendation of how to pay to achieve these goals? And what do you mean by "receive it?" 

 OK.  Here are a few things to think about with this analysis.  For one thing, to show you why I don't analyze using percentages (they lie), the total "hold back in actual "dollars" will be about $2900/year (if all goes well).  My questions are this:

1 - When do you think you might need a new furnace?  ($3500)
2 - ....roof?  ($4500)
3 - ....driveway? ($6000)
4 - or other CAPEX cost? ($3000) almost 6 years to come up with all of it. Here's hoping .....
Instead of holding back funds, go out and get an LOC and use that money when you need it.
5 - Don't you think you would learn more about being a property manager while watching a real property manager doing it right?

Last question:

6 - Why are you holding the property for 0 years?  Why not less?  Why not more?

Post: First Deal as a Newbie

Andrew P.
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I am the typical bigger pockets newbie story. Been listening to the podcast 4 years frustrated and spinning my wheels. Been under contract on a few but they fell apart on inspection. I have a 2/2 932 Sq ft under contract 15 minutes from my house for $145k. Plan to put 20% down and finance the rest at 3.5%. It should rent (per BP, rentometer, zillow) for $1200 a month. It is in great shape and move in ready, however because of that it is only worth around $145k. I'm paying market price. With 7% Repairs, 5% vacancy, and 7% Capex I stand to cash flow $289 per month with 10% coc. The plan would be to self manage so I can learn the ins and outs of PM and to hold for 10+ years. It is certainly not a deal that will make anyones radar but for me I think it would be a great base hit to use the baseball analogy. I understand many are saying wait in this market but I've been waiting for a long time. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Post: Another Newbie Spinning Their Wheels

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Ethan, I'm in a similar situation, live near you, work in sales as well, all that.  Been under contract on 3 or so houses and had to back out for inspection issues.  I'm under contract on my 4th now.  It isn't an amazing deal but should cash flow $300/month with 10% coc.  I'm doing it anyways just for educations sake alone.  I finally decided a couple months ago I was going to focus on 2 things and I was going to dedicate specific time everyday analyzing deals and getting it done.  That seems to be helping.  Regardless I feel your frustration as I have had it since I started Bigger Pockets in 2016.  Literally anything I would have bought then would have been a deal in our market.  Working on taking action myself.  I write this just to let you know you aren't alone out there.  Good luck

Post: So many homes for sale!

Andrew P.
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Tight market here in the North Metro Atlanta area as well

Post: Future Investor from Georgia

Andrew P.
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Welcome to another North GA native!

Post: How to identify a mobile home vs stick built home

Andrew P.
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I'm under contract for this house.  https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6510-Millwood-Rd-Cumming-GA-30041/14644157_zpid/  The sellers agent says it is a stick built house but it really really looks like a double wide to me in some ways.  It is about 32ft wide and 70ft long.  On a foundation with an unfinished basement.  Any tips on how to actually determine what it is?

Post: Would an incredibly steep driveway scare you away from a rental?

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Thanks all, unfortunately the septic may be a deal killer on this one.  The tank is only 1,000 gallons so it is probably not going to support the build out.  Looking into my options here.

Post: Would an incredibly steep driveway scare you away from a rental?

Andrew P.
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

Taking the trash cans up and down that drive would suck .  

as will trying to moving dirt   but if the OP understands all this and only lives 10 minutes away and can make money with under market rents then probably OK I guess.. I would not want to take it on.

I bought one foreclosure in Portlandia that had a very steep driveway it cost me my profit and was way hard to sell. but that was a retail at 250k.. not a rental.  and like I said in B ham this is common.. so tenants learn to deal with it.. 

Also I would make sure the duplex can really be permitted that's a SFR why does one think they can convert to duplex.. and whats that going to cost ??

It's definitely a risk. Just trying to bounce it off the forum and see what you guys thought. I've taken 4-5 different people over there and some have said run and others have said tenants won't care as much. Most of this hinges on the septic inspection this morning. If the tank isn't large enough to handle the additional bathrooms, kitchen, laundry then I'll walk. If the field lines or tank are under the parking areas same thing. In response to zoning it is zoned R3 residential in Forsyth County GA which allows for Duplex. No HOA.