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All Forum Posts by: Chris Bounds

Chris Bounds has started 77 posts and replied 443 times.

Post: Direct Mail Campaign Results - Comments & Suggestions Welcome

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@Fitzgerald Hall, I took @Sam Craven's advice. Here is an updated breakdown:

  1. Target Market: Absentee
  2. Campaign Type: White typed letters and zip letters using YellowLetters.com
  3. Total Prospects: 5735
  4. Total Mailings: 4
  5. Frequency: Every 6 weeks
  6. Total Leads: 102
  7. Total deals: 5
  8. Comments: This has been the best campaign yet. Only a slightly higher response rate and still a high cost per deal, but it's been the most profitable campaign yet. I'm still working on several warm leads too. 

Post: Free Landlord Workshop for Investors in Houston

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

I'll be there

Post: BRRR strategy confusion - Refinancing

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@Richard Fields, correct. As long as your debt-to-income (DTI) ratio is good, with W-2 income and an 820 score you shouldn't have any trouble refinancing conventional. You'll likely start getting capped out at 4-5 properties, but it's possible to secure up to 10 conventional loans before you'll need to look into portfolio / commercial financing.

Post: BRRR strategy confusion - Refinancing

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194
Originally posted by @Richard Fields:
Originally posted by @Chris Bounds:

@Account Closed,

Depending on how you finance the acquisition the benefits of BRRRR can vary.

Situation 1: Private Lender or Hard Money Lender agrees to fund 70% ARV which is $105k based on your hypothetical. They will withhold the $35k in repairs and release them to you in draws (so make sure you have a line of credit or cash to get work started). After the house is repaired you immediately file your refinance paperwork (I'd have it filed before hand, but the appraisal can't be ordered until the repairs are completed). There is no need to wait 6+ months to refinance. You can typically get up to 75% ARV on the refi. In this situation, other than closing costs, you have very little out of pocket expenses. Your ROI / CCR will be great and your cash flow will jump when you lock in the lower interest rate. I've used this strategy many times!

Situation 2: You do the same as the above except you use cash for the acquisition and repairs.  I have not done this before.  There may be some seasoning required (6-12mths)  before you can do a cash out refinance.  Once you refinance though, you will free up your cash to do other deals.  This may "save" you on costs by not using an acquisitions lender, but you are tying up your cash that potentially could have gone towards other deals (opportunity cost).

Situation 3: Instead of using a PL or HML, find a local portfolio lender. Some will lend 60-70% ARV and hold repair reserves just like a HML. The difference is their rates are usually much better than HML. I did this recently and the loan was about 4% with 1pt. It was much better than 12% with 3pts. Plus, you don't have to pay for two closings. However, many portfolio lenders will want to see skin in the game so you may have to put some cash down regardless of how cheap you buy it. They will also want good credit and experience.

In your situation 1; Where can you find a bank that will refinance you for 75% of the ARV AND without the seasoning period? This is EXACTLY what I want to do BUT it was my understanding that I had to wait that seasoning period and even then could only get about 70% of what I had into the property

 If you have W-2 income and decent credit then conventional financing will do it. Find a broker that works with investors. 

Post: Phil Grove

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@Ricky Brown, that was my exact same experience.  I left early to the 1 event I went to and haven't been back.  I really don't mind people pitching their products or services, but there needs to be some good value given beforehand.

Jet Lending is having their monthly investors meeting tonight at the Texans Grill. It does give a lot of value plus free food & beer. Lots of networking too since it usually has 200 or so investors there. (no affiliation, just a customer and regular attendee) There are several other good REI events around Houston as well.

Post: Houston Portfolio Lenders & Equity Credit Lines

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

Houston investors, I'm looking for local (portfolio) lenders for long-term buy & hold financing / refinancing. I use the BRRRR for acquiring rentals. Also, does anyone know of a good lender that will do equity lines of credit on rental properties?

Post: Missed phone calls

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@Chris Uhler, I agree it's good practice.  We get about 98% of all calls live.  We've actually called a few back.  Most I think wanted to be removed from our list or were unmotivated. Otherwise time limits so far have been preventing us from doing it systematically .  

A story on answering live calls...Once I called about 10 postcards/letters from other investors to add them to my buyers list.  Only 1 answered live and only 1 other returned my voicemail.  After that I figured competition may be fierce, but answering live is an easy leg up.

Post: Missed phone calls

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@Undrea King, our goal is to answer every single call as well.  To be honest, calls that are missed and do not leave a message we do not bother calling back.  If I were in your position I'd try to find someone local, maybe a friend or a relative, that you can train specifically to take messages for you during a certain period of time. 

Post: How Do You Compensate Your Acquisitions Manager / House Buyer?

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@David Billings, not yet.  So far we've decided to hold on to the higher paid tasks and outsource some of the simpler tasks.  We outsourced bookkeeping a long time ago.  We recently outsourced blog writing for SEO.  We're still looking for motivated acquisition agents, but meanwhile we're developing our systems to minimize training time.

Post: BRRR strategy confusion - Refinancing

Chris BoundsPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 467
  • Votes 194

@Joe Villeneuve, agreed. The BRRR is a pretty straight forward and simple way to effectively design a zero down deal.