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All Forum Posts by: Adrian Stamer

Adrian Stamer has started 14 posts and replied 300 times.

Post: Oceanfront Duplex, Campbell River, BC, Canada

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hey

There are some other issues with this deal. You aren't accounting for maintenance/repairs, possible vacancies, and also what about property management?

I do realize Vancouver is a hellishly pricey market, but with returns like that you could just loan your $120k out at 8%+ or even more traditional investments like stocks and get a better return. Just because there isn't much available doesn't mean the few options that are still will provide an acceptable return

Post: Oceanfront Duplex, Campbell River, BC, Canada

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Making $1200 a year off $120k is 1% return if I am reading this correctly. Are you banking on hefty appreciation to make this work?

I realize 100k of it is also financed but you could still take this money and invest into other options

Post: How to evaluate potential investment properties

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depends on what you are looking for in an investment property. If you are buying and holding for cash flow those are pretty poor options

Post: Potential FSBO Wholesale Opportunity in Richmond, VA

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wholesaling is generally to investors so they would be looking to pay 70% of market value

So not much you can here as a wholesaler. You could be an agent and sell it to an owner occupant, but that's a whole different task

Post: Richmond,Va Sub-forum

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yea good stuff they added these Richmond Virginia sub forums 

Post: Should I buy this Duplex??

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Quickly glancing at that the numbers look pretty poor. Using 50% rule and doing the basement modifications you still end up at about $1500 left over after expenses so with your mortgage it's doubtful you will cash flow at all

Post: 50% rule

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Post: Is there anyone in the market for an 18 unit apartment complex?

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hey can you shoot me some info

Post: How to add $15k of value?

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imo appraisers don't look that specifically at these individual items you are discussing, so you are kind of rolling the dice on what it may appraise at. An appraiser is more looking at general condition, square footage, baths, beds and comps. So statistically speaking $15k is pretty minor on almost a half a million house

Post: Over Leveraged?

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Originally posted by @Alison Robinson:

Great subject! I don’t have the experience of many of the responders but I have spent many hours considering how much debt I should carry. To grow my business I am prepared to leverage savings and a strong credit score but on the flip side I've worked 25 years in a corporate job, following the most basic rules for retirement savings from age 24. Establishing an emergency fund, then contributing to a 401k, saving at least the minimum amount to get the company match, continuing to increase contributions until reaching the government maximum allowance. Continuing to diversify savings through other vehicles over the years. I went through the 90s where 10-15% returns were easy to come by and through the major losses in 2001& 2008, then the no growth years and now the slow recovery. I'm absolutely thrilled to be investing in real estate but I'm not willing to risk what took 25 years to build.

Here is my approach:

Consider a worst-case scenario - I accumulate a portfolio of rental properties. Assume both the rental market and the housing market tank. Property values drop 50% and rental vacancies hit 50%. How do I survive without losing everything? In other words what debt can I take on and recover from without declaring bankruptcy and without drastically impacting my standard of living. For me that number is $200,000.

Liquidation Option: Sell all assets at a 50% loss, proceeds would only be sufficient to pay down a portion of the business debt, the rest would need to be covered with personal savings or income. I could cover $200,000 and not dramatically impact my current life style

Liquidation Formula: (Total Assets / 2) - Total Debt =< $200,000

Temporary Survival Option: Property vacancies are running 50%. Gross Income is insufficient to cover monthly expenses. Additional personal income would be needed to cover business expenses. I could defer $1500 in personal monthly income to supplement business expenses and still cover my monthly living expenses for an extended period of time assuming I did not lose my job.

Monthly Negative Cash Flow Formula: (Gross Income /2) – Total Property Expenses – Total Debt Payments =< $1,500

My approach will likely change as we purchase more properties but this lets me sleep at night.

If your max debt loss tolerance is $200k (the amount that you can cover) that wouldn't get you a whole lot of property. Assuming going off your usual 80% LTV, a $600k building is $120k down with the remaining $480k financed. In your worst case scenario, your $600k building will drop to being worth $300k and then sold. So you will lose the $120k and then have $300k proceeds to go to pay down your $480k loan... Leaving around ~$180k in loan costs for you to personally cover (easily your $200k number).

So you are kind of pegging yourself at that level with your more standard buy and hold financed strategy

But property values (generally go up and down) so I would focus more on your monthly income loss mitigation strategy then just liquidation. Rents and vacancies are going to be a lot more stable then property values. Focus on buying good cash flowing properties