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All Forum Posts by: Adam Macias

Adam Macias has started 10 posts and replied 148 times.

Post: On market wholesaling deals

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100

"This contract is assignable." in the additional provisions is all you need. However, I'm speaking in terms of wholesaling deals in Colorado. MLS listings are free and Jamil teaches this heavy with his Astro course so it's become insane popular the past two years. Man I do miss MLS before Astro no offense to Jamil.

You can do deals on the MLS it's just gotten way to difficult compared to sticking with direct to homeowner. Homeowners are not going to pester you with a million questions on if you're a wholesaler and getting a discount without other wholesalers daisy chaining your deal doesn't happen. Barely anyone else knows about the deal!

Post: Questions on Working with Realtors

Adam Macias
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  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
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Quote from @JD Monroe:
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Asia Muhammad


Did you pull this directly from ChatGPT? 

 This isn't against anyone in this thread but wow this did make me laugh out loud for real hahaha I was recently watching a video about ChatGPT so it was perfect timing.

Post: What’s a better cold calling strategy?

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Mike Schorah:
Quote from @JD Monroe:

@Mike Schorah there are more questions that have to be asked in order to give you the answer. What are your Goals? Based on my business I would go with "B" but in a 2hr radius. 
How many Deals do you want to do per month?
How many prospects will options A & B give you each month?
How many Prospects do YOU need to Talk to to get 1 Lead?
How Many leads do you need to get 1 deal?


Until I get deals rolling in, one of my main goals is avoiding a TCPA lawsuit from contacting someone more than once.

I called 20,000 probates 3 times. I took them off of the list if they were a dead lead.

When I generated the list again… 13,000 were probates that I already called. Since it has been 3 months, should I consider dead leads new prospects now?   

 Ummm, I've yet to see that many active probate cases open at any one time. Probates usually last 3-6 months in terms of any assets being liquidated. In each county of my state I see 10-50 records at most with a property attached to the estate. What's your source for the data?

I only send handwritten letters to probates but I'd go with option B. if we're strictly talking cold calls because you do need to make enough calls to catch people in perfect timing. You don't have a list of "sellers". You don't know who may be in a situation to sell until they actually want to have a conversation. Cold calling is all about timing. I've had the worst tone, opening, script etc and still got deals all because it was just perfect timing. That's pretty much marketing 101 right there. lol

Post: Does the seller matter?

Adam Macias
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  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Ryan Succetti:

Does it matter that OpenDoor is the seller if the price is right?  Their process and employees don't seem the most easy to deal with.  


 I've yet to see a house for sale from OpenDoor work at a discounted enough price. They overpaid in the first place but hey, it is all about if you do have a buyer willing to pay that price. I've yet to see it in Colorado. Interesting to see if it works out.

Post: Wholesale and Contracts.

Adam Macias
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  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Kevin Moua:

Hello everyone. Newbie here. I've stumbled upon a house for sale and is looking for advice or wise words of who is a investor friendly title company that will help close deals. I know nothing about contracts and any tips or templates or examples of contracts would be helpful and appreciated.

Thank You.


 Which state are you doing business in? Wholesalers do the most transactions on a frequent basis and when you find a title company that understands assignments it's incredible because they value you. Best thing to do is simply Google "Title company in (city)" and look for the Escrow Officer's email and let them know your intentions.

"Good evening Title Company,

My name is Adam Macias and I'm a real estate investor investing buying in the (city) area. I'm currently looking for a better title company to work with and I have a few questions for you to see if we would make a good fit.

I make multiple offers every week, many times I get more than one offer accepted at the same time, but I may have the cash to close on one or two of those deals. But since another deal may still be under contract at a discounted price I have partners that want any deals that I cannot close myself. In that case I generally assign the contract or double close.

Do you handle assignment of contracts?

I look forward to speaking with you soon and also have a few more questions I'd like to ask about your services. I originally tried calling but it seemed the office was closed at the time."

Post: Wholesaling in the DMV

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Jerran Crichton:

@Adam Macias thank you. I have other questions, I'll DM you.


 No problem! I'll help the best I can.

Post: Wholesaling in the DMV

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Jerran Crichton:

Does wholesaling work in the DMV? 


 Wholesaling works in every state in the country.

Post: Wholesaling With Conventional Loans

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Jesse LeBlanc:

@Adam Macias Yes, both of my original long posts stated exactly what you just said in your last post. I agree, hints why I was trying to help others have the smoothest and easiest closing without double closing while explaining many what if's that could happen and ways around those hurdles.  You're still stuck on me being a lender for some reason and not respecting the entire educational post for others.  Oh yah, 100% agree about the end buyer, I also stated that in my original posts, don't work with someone like this.  Find folks you can have a mutually beneficial and long term relationship with.


 And I mean at the end of the day, this is just my take and opinion. I understand my way of doing things won't be for everyone. There are states that don't allow assignments at all and if it ever got that way in states I do business in then yes double closings are absolutely necessary. There is great value with transactional funding for people doing business in those states. It all just depends. I'd just rather avoid it at all costs given assignability exist and as long as this is the United States of America and contracts mean something, it will.

Post: Wholesaling With Conventional Loans

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Jesse LeBlanc:

@Adam Macias you clearly misunderstood and making assumptions now.

1) I never said you were a newbie nor would I care if you were.  Facts are facts
2) I specifically stated NOT to double close and methods to get around it
3) I also specifically stated that someone should be very transparent so there should never be any concern with your buyer or seller and not to double close, especially in this scenario (for MOST cases, especially if you didn't talk with the buyers lender ahead of time)
4) Everyone who reads this post SHOULD review both of my longer posts above, new or experienced, to understand the process more and step by step vs just your comment without explanation stating "biggest thing people need to understand is that 99% of the time a seller is not concerned, cares or even knows what an assignment fee is"  as there is more to that especially for a rookie.  They don't know what that means.  That also doesn't help or answer the question to the original post, may have nothing to do with the seller but 100% will potentially have an issue with the end buyers lender and losing the deal completely. 

I'm focused on adding value and explaining the process, the why and the what if. :)


 Not making assumptions, stated my viewpoint on the topic.


What did you mean by, "and otherwise hiding your fee from someone". Hiding is an interesting word because according to the dictionary it means:

the action of concealing someone or something.

  • the state of being hidden."the shipowner had gone into hiding"

Further "concealing" means:

keep (something) secret; prevent from being known or noticed.

So what I'm implying, not assuming, for anyone reading this conversation is there's no malice if the seller's doesn't know, see or understand what your assignment fee is.

Did this provide enough clarity or did I misdefine my intentions?

Because you also said, "your seller is fine with what you made". Well, what makes you think they wouldn't be fine unless you think you're doing something wrong? I don't need the double closing process explained because I've done them before.

Three biggest flaws with them for me are:

1. You place more earnest money than necessary most of the time and it comes from you, not your end buyer which is tough for most beginners in wholesaling to consistently risk that.
2. You lose more in your profit because of fees from the transactional lending.
3. It takes more effort because you literally have two closings.

This is nothing against you personally and I'm not saying transactional lending is never going to be necessary. Also, I remember when Colorado omitted the assignability clause in the state contract 10 years ago. That's when this type of lending became popular. People were freaking out because MLS deals were so easy. Man that was a fun time though.

Also, "have a buyer that is greedy and upset with your profit and could walk away", if this is the case don't work with that buyer then. Work with people you'll have a long term relationship with that want to see you win as well.

Post: Wholesaling With Conventional Loans

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Jesse LeBlanc:

@Lydia R. completely understand your concern, and as I said before it's case by case depending on ones relationship with each party.  At the end of the day, there should be no reason lie or deceive anyone to get a deal closed, and not saying you or I am but I know so many others intentionally lie to sellers to get a deal under contract. 

There are a few ways to protect yourself and make sure you still collect your fee, one is as simple as being the one facilitating the contract to both seller and buyer.  In the special stipulations BEFORE you send to your seller and buyer is that you write in that X amount is owed to you and to be shown on the sellers side.  It's as simple as that.  Then when both your buyer and seller sign the contract and you send to the closing company, there are no questions asked, you're protected and you get your money at closing and the end buyers lender can't say anything about it plus they won't know what the actual contract said anyway.  @Adam Macias the above paragraph answers your question about security and making sure you get your $

If your seller has a problem with your fee, then you clearly didn't have a good relationship or not transparent with the seller and you didn't set proper expectations from the start, thus causing a potential surprise later.  I know what you're thinking right now, what if the spread was such a huge amount.  If you then feel that to be the case, no need to lie, just find a 2nd option to still be able to close the deal, which might be to buy the property with your own capital, with private money or hard money then as soon as you own it and on the deed get an UPDATED contract with the end buyer now that you are legally the owner and have the right to sell and there won't be a problem with the conventional lender.

ALSO, i'm NOT saying that this is for EVERY lender either.  Hints why my original message stated to communicate with the buyer and their lender as MANY of them don't have a problem still lending once they know what you're doing and that you will legally be the owner at the time of the BC closing.  Once they understand that, then you should be perfectly find double closing without a hitch, BUT you want to know that first vs waiting until the day of closing and the underwriter realizes you aren't the owner and they stop the transaction until further notice.

I 100% agree that its so much easier with a cash buyer, buyer with private funds followed by hard money then conventional.

No, I don't offer any short term loans but do have friends that do.  They are still treated like normal loan and must be underwritten because there is no "guarantee" like a transactional loan because the buyer could easily backout or something happen after the first closing if both are simultaneous.  I've done this a few times and got burnt, waiting 3 weeks to 2 months to finally get the 2nd one closed out again after it was expected to just be 2-5 days after the first closing...THINGS HAPPEN

@Adam Macias about your next statement, you're talking about a BLIND HUD, thus not disclosing and otherwise hiding your fee from someone. That means you weren't transparent and afraid of losing the deal because of the money you're making. I've been there, I get it, but there shouldn't be any shame in creating a profit from SOLVING a sellers problem. They clearly were ok with the price you paid, it solved their issue and you're a for profit business. BUT I also get that in some scenarios it is best to simply double close (or in your market do a blind HUD/Settlement Statement and assign) to keep the deal alive and this could also be that your seller is fine with what you made but you have a buyer that is greedy and upset with your profit and could walk away (i'd never sell to a buyer like this anyway) so that would also be a great time to double close or blind hud as you do. and BTW, more and more states are stopping this from happening, so be careful not to only do wholesale deals one way or you may cause yourself some major problems down the road.

Well, clearly you have a business to promote double closes but I'm not a newbie and I'm here to tell newbies double closings come with more headache and costs than they're worth in my opinion. There's very, very, very specific circumstances it's necessary but definitely not when you're starting out. The biggest thing people need to understand is that 99% of the time a seller is not concerned, cares or even knows what an assignment fee is. I know what a seller side only HUD statement is and what a blind HUD statement is. Even without having to do those, again, I'VE YET TO HAVE A SELLER GET UPSET because this only comes up when people believe they're doing something wrong or don't have the confidence in their buyer or confidence in knowing they can wholesale. Just my take. Double closings are barely needed.