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All Forum Posts by: Adam Macias

Adam Macias has started 10 posts and replied 148 times.

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Matthew Paul:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
most top producing resi agents avoid investors like the plague.  Its a very niche part of RE. 

 Jay , and so do top performing contractors .  

This sounds subjective because every contractor I've worked with said they earn the most working with investors and it's repeat business. Whether it's DR Horton or an individual buying a few flips a year. Because I hear investors say the same stuff. "Agents are the devil" and then other investors say "My whole business is thanks to agents". People use bad experiences and classify everyone as the same. I've lost major money from bad contractors but no way I'm going to say I'll never use a contractor because I had a bad experience. I work with TOP agents and TOP contractors so where does that leave me? lol You have to define what you mean by "investor" and define what you mean by "top". There's agents that make $1mil per year working with one investor and some that earn that much only selling two listings a year working with no investors directly. There's too many variables.

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Adam Macias, why do real estate agents fail? You know the answer well but are looking for a healthy discussion. To play into this matter, the answer is due to the free market and the principle of supply and demand (Carlos' point). When hundreds of thousands of agents are licensed in a market, but inventory levels are at all-time lows, individuals hoping for the quick commission check aren't going to do too well. Hence, the failure rate has been, and will likely always be, ~85%. 

Furthermore, for most agents, a higher volume of leads doesn't necessarily help them convert more closings. This is simply because most agents have no idea how to move a prospect through the sales funnel. More leads aren't going to solve their problem of lack of sales skills. As Jay noted, you need sales skills to survive in this industry. 

I advise newer and existing agents to hire a sales coach or mentor before spending money on leads, whether it's through Zillow, BP, or some other real estate-related platform. Sorry, BP. I know this goes against your model. 


 Love the input! As I mentioned in the first post I'm not saying anyone HAS to do one particular thing, this study is an industry study as a whole which is interesting. Thanks for the feedback.

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Calvin Thomas:

This statement makes you look like a shill to push your paid service or crazy. Either way, it looks pretty bad for Bigger Pockets to allow a BS post like this.

Calvin  Adam is a sales rep for BP this is his job to promote BP services..  :)

 Lol

 People are losing focus on the main subject matter. That report exist and is fact whether or not I even made this post. It's weird how anyone would give a negative reaction because this is a case study situation. My main question I'd love to hear feedback on is WHY so many agents fail.  

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Calvin Thomas:

This statement makes you look like a shill to push your paid service or crazy. Either way, it looks pretty bad for Bigger Pockets to allow a BS post like this.

Calvin  Adam is a sales rep for BP this is his job to promote BP services..  :)

 I've been wholesaling for 11 years too though...

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Evan Polaski:

Any stats about real estate agents need to be taken with a grain of salt.  In most states, it seems, and I can certainly say for Ohio, the barrier of entry to become an agent is extremely low. 

I have met my fair share of agents that only got their license thinking it would help them do their own deals.  I know some that got their license only to try to help justify to the IRS that they are a QREP.  I know stay at home parents that get it, just in case a friend or family member wants to buy or sell.  

When you have a low barrier of entry, you will have a lot of hobbyists, who will never do any of the work to be successful.  This is not a critique of anyone that got their license and lets it sit idle or near idle.  Being a full time agent is a grind.  Nights, weekends, irrational/emotional clients (this last one goes just as much of owner-occupants as it does for investors).  


 You put it perfectly. It takes much more than people realize to be a real estate agent but the reward is so worth it. 

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Adam Macias

Let’s turn the tables on this, what percentage of so called real estate investors bought a property in 2023

There are 2.5 million accounts on BP. I would bet that more than 75% did not buy a property in 2023

 Good point. If we turn the tables and say it could be a 95% failure ratio. ( doubt it's ever that high but just for conversation sake) In general for the whole country if we count everyone. Those not on BiggerPockets as well because those community numbers is more than just investors. It's everyone in real estate in general.

But even if it's 95%, let's just make sure WE'RE THE 5% is the point of my post.

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Michael S.:

As an investor, why would I want to work with an agent that's closed zero to one property over the past year?  That tells me that the agent in question:

1.  Is not an investor themselves, as they didn't close any deals for themselves

2.  Probably has limited insight or experience with investment properties

3.  Probably has another source of income resulting in them not closing houses and not being immersed in real estate on a day to day basis


 You bring up some valid points. I think about that all the time.

Post: "Nearly Half Of All Real Estate Agents in 2023 Sold No Or One House"

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Adam Macias

Let’s turn the tables on this, what percentage of so called real estate investors bought a property in 2023

There are 2.5 million accounts on BP. I would bet that more than 75% did not buy a property in 2023


so called investors are time waster for most agents..  its just everything else real estate related I bet 20% of so called investors buy 80% of the props.. the rest are dreamers or afraid to pull the trigger are supreme time wasters. and or the number crunchers who rely on some spread sheet to determine their returns etc etc.

That would be what BP advertises though  in bold. We have the captain of the sinking ship syndication from BP with that calculator for everyone to use and then come ask on here why they cannot find cash flow or 1%.

BP is home of the worst investor friendly agents. The few that are excellent on here probably are on that opposite side-- do 80% of the deals  yet I'd argue it's like 5% of them. Otherwise the one's not on here, they mainly work with families trying to buy a new primary, or possibly a second home or third. Maybe an investor, but likely an investor group.

I'd be interested to see how many REI bought properties in 2023. Then how many bought 3 or more, and scale up. I'm thinking it's higher than 75% that did not buy, a lot higher.


 I wouldn't doubt if the failure ratio is 95% of those trying to be investors. People think I'm going to be scared by that or feel some kind of way. You know why I don't? Because I AM doing deals. That's the whole point of my post. How do you make sure you're NOT a failure?

Shoot, it could be a 99% failure ratio, that'll never stop me from wholesaling and pursuing rehabs. Elon Musk as said numerous, numerous times he actually expected Tesla and Space X to fail. Did that stop him? Absolutely not because the reward if it did become successful was worth the risk.

Remember what Michael Jordan said in one of the Nike commercials?

"Maybe it's my fault.. or maybe you're just making excuses."

Post: 45% Of Real Estate Agents Claim They Struggled to Pay Rent in 2023

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Gregory Chadwell:
49% of agents sold either 1 home or none at all in the past year: CFA

Agent 'glut' means part-timers are now the majority, leading to 'widespread incompetence and pressure to maintain high commission rates,' according to the Consumer Federation of America



inman only 50 percent of agents sold only 1 house - Search (bing.com)

I hit Executive Club status last year so far 8 years in a row!   It is challenging out there especially to new agents with no base or previous sales.  

Veteran agents like myself know how to adjust to shifting markets!


 Oh man I think you hit the nail on the head Gregory! It is those most willing to adapt to changing circumstances that consistently survive and thrive.

Post: 45% Of Real Estate Agents Claim They Struggled to Pay Rent in 2023

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 100
Quote from @Bill B.:

Why are they renting? Were they not agents during the 2nd best time to buy property in our lifetimes? Didn’t I hear somewhere there are more agents than homes sold? I think the “average” realtor sells 1 home or less per year.

Ps. They should try house hacking with other realtors. 

Pps. Who answers these surveys?


 These are some great questions I was asking myself!