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All Forum Posts by: Adam Macias

Adam Macias has started 12 posts and replied 151 times.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Henry Clark:

My mother taught us to eat food even if from someone you don’t like.


Pick wholesalers who are in the geographical area you want.  Train them in the types of property you’re looking for.  Develop a fee based approach for them.   Tell them how you want deals Served up.  


 The real question is, why don't you like wholesalers?

 Why? We all responded to that question. 99% are clueless, that's why . When you hear, ", my partner has the contract direct " that means they do not know anything about the property. . They " teamed up  " with someone they do not know and are trying to sell it without knowing anything about it. BEST question everyone should ask these clowns, Who is the owner., that will back them into a corner then you know 100% they are not direct.


Yes, I agree. It's like my favorite question to ask buyers, "Are you prepared to close in 3 days, place a generous EMD down or both?" Great, great question to qualify buyers.

Post: Closing Statement for a Wholesale Transaction

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Terri Johnson:

I could use some advice! I didn't end up with an investor-friendly title officer as I asked the wrong people for referrals (oops) and she doesn't know how to transact a wholesale deal. How can I help her?

She is still considering me the buyer when I have assigned the contract to someone else. She is still using the purchase price that I got the contract under and not taking the assignment fee into consideration on the closing statement.

What can I do? Does anyone have an example closing statement that I can show her? This is the first wholesale transaction I have done.

Thank you!

 This sounds like the fee wasn't stated in the assignment. Was that the case? If so, the biggest problem is the legality of the title company honoring what's in a contract. An assignment of contract is a contract. So if your fee wasn't stated in there, the title company is in the right. They can't operate via word of mouth.

Now, if the fee was stated in the assignment of contract, they MUST honor the contract and cut you a check for your fee at closing.

Disclaimer here: Just my experience in dealing with title companies and attorneys.

Post: Beginning a Wholesale Business

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Larry Freeney:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Larry Freeney:

Thank you, @Adam Macias and @Amber Forkey for your generous insights!


 I can make a 4 hour video just talking about how bad do you actually want it. That's the thing. Don't put this on a pedestal of some magical unicorn that happens to a select few people. What snapped me out of overthinking is just saying I'm smarter and tired of all these stupid people making money in real estate lol I know that sounds harsh at first but when I was a barista I just got mad one day and said screw it no more waiting. Just get it done.

That’s my exact line of thinking. If someone can do it, so can I! 

Most people have never seen a $15,000 check so it's a mental barrier to break. The romance of making it bigger than what it is stops most people. I see it all the time. It's a believe that holds them back.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Katlynn Teague:
Quote from @Larry Turowski:

Gotta agree with @Bob Stevens. The bar is really low for becoming a wholesaler. The  bar is only slightly higher for becoming a realtor and they can be every bit as bad and shady as wholesalers.

The truly good wholesalers and truly good real estate agents who work really hard—they’re great.  That said, like Bob, I haven’t bought a listed property in a long time.


 Larry, thank you for taking the time to comment.

I agree with Bob as well. That said, to avoid getting yourself in a sticky situation with a shady wholesaler or realtor is asking the right questions upfront! 


 I can tell in 20 seconds of the wholesaler, is real or not. I always ask, are you direct with the owner? When they say, " my partner " is. That means they found a deal online, they are now marketing it and calling themselves a wholesaler. I than say, ok so you are not direct, then then talk BS. I than ask, do you know who, Mr Jones is? I find the name of the owner 1st, they say umm no I then say its the owner you idiot, but hey thanks for the lead, :)

All the best, 


 This is a very valid point because "co-wholesaling" has a huge amount of illegal activity and people who are brokering without a license. I love you brought this up. If the wholesaler is not under contract directly with the seller, it's not worth pursuing. 

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Bob Stevens:

Most are clueless; however, I do get about 20 a week sent to me in my market from them. Most no nothing about the property except for the photos they were sent, (photos are meaningless) They say but bob look at the ROI, again they are clueless, they do not even know how to determine the net cap and know nothing about the area,. So they are very useful you just need to know what you are doing.

   Also, all due respect I NEVER deal with realtors. I have done about 500 in my market and only used a realtor 10 years ago for a few.  I have found that most NOT ALL, realtors do not have a clue either. They show up at a house not knowing anything about it. How many deals do not close as they are off by 20 30 40k ( realtor fees). They all have the same line. " Multiple offers highest and best". I have to tell them what to offer. Just last year when I purchased my primary. Ask was 650 I said offer 450, Oh no , that's to low, you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner. Oh, ok I will do it. Sure, enough got it for 525k including the 15k golf membership, realtor made 15k for DOING ZERO work. All she did was get us in. Not a bad gig. 

So everyone needs to know their market, they should know exactly what to pay and where to buy. If they have to ask the realtor if this is a good deal they should not do the deal. Never leave that up to the wholesaler or the realtor,, know what you are doing. 

All the best 


 You can't go around the wholesaler and it's actually a very shady move. That's why contracts exist.


 Who said anything about going around a wholesaler ? 

"you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner."
I'm talking in direct response to this sentence. Not saying you yourself have bad intent, but if anybody operates this way it's shady business. Contracts must be honored. Sellers can't take that contract and start bidding it to others... UNLESS it's assigned lol Anytime a buyer has tried that with me, I'm glad I warn the seller ahead of time saying buyers will do everything possible to try and convince you to take their offer.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Henry Clark:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Henry Clark:

My mother taught us to eat food even if from someone you don’t like.


Pick wholesalers who are in the geographical area you want.  Train them in the types of property you’re looking for.  Develop a fee based approach for them.   Tell them how you want deals Served up.  


 The real question is, why don't you like wholesalers?


 You must not have read what I posted if you asked that question. 


 "My mother taught us to eat food even if from someone you don’t like.", what do you mean by "don't like"? lol It's not an abrasive question, just wondering why you used this exact phrasing to make a point.

Post: Beginning a Wholesale Business

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Larry Freeney:

Thank you, @Adam Macias and @Amber Forkey for your generous insights!


 I can make a 4 hour video just talking about how bad do you actually want it. That's the thing. Don't put this on a pedestal of some magical unicorn that happens to a select few people. What snapped me out of overthinking is just saying I'm smarter and tired of all these stupid people making money in real estate lol I know that sounds harsh at first but when I was a barista I just got mad one day and said screw it no more waiting. Just get it done.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Bob Stevens:

Most are clueless; however, I do get about 20 a week sent to me in my market from them. Most no nothing about the property except for the photos they were sent, (photos are meaningless) They say but bob look at the ROI, again they are clueless, they do not even know how to determine the net cap and know nothing about the area,. So they are very useful you just need to know what you are doing.

   Also, all due respect I NEVER deal with realtors. I have done about 500 in my market and only used a realtor 10 years ago for a few.  I have found that most NOT ALL, realtors do not have a clue either. They show up at a house not knowing anything about it. How many deals do not close as they are off by 20 30 40k ( realtor fees). They all have the same line. " Multiple offers highest and best". I have to tell them what to offer. Just last year when I purchased my primary. Ask was 650 I said offer 450, Oh no , that's to low, you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner. Oh, ok I will do it. Sure, enough got it for 525k including the 15k golf membership, realtor made 15k for DOING ZERO work. All she did was get us in. Not a bad gig. 

So everyone needs to know their market, they should know exactly what to pay and where to buy. If they have to ask the realtor if this is a good deal they should not do the deal. Never leave that up to the wholesaler or the realtor,, know what you are doing. 

All the best 


 You can't go around the wholesaler and it's actually a very shady move. That's why contracts exist.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Henry Clark:

My mother taught us to eat food even if from someone you don’t like.


Pick wholesalers who are in the geographical area you want.  Train them in the types of property you’re looking for.  Develop a fee based approach for them.   Tell them how you want deals Served up.  


 The real question is, why don't you like wholesalers?

Post: Beginning a Wholesale Business

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 162
  • Votes 102
Quote from @Larry Freeney:

Hey, all! My name is Larry and I'm a mental health counselor. I'm looking to get into wholesaling as a supplement to my income and depending on my success, go into it fully time. I'm currently in the knowledge gathering phase. I'm looking to make connections, meet new people, and have fun! 


 There's so many things to elaborate on for beginners and it's all dependent upon your current financial situation and how much time you are dedicated to this business. Stick with one method of acquiring leads but most important step is building a cash buyers list. Without cash buyers, it's very tough to even know if a deal is a deal. You'll use formulas that may not even matter. Some buyers pay 85%, some pay 70%, some want 60%. All want different property types and will buy in different areas. Talking to cash buyers is the best way to even get market knowledge of what is happening in Houston, TX. Most will tell you to focus on sellers but do that only after you have at least 20-50 solid buyers you know the criteria of. Then all you have to do is acquire what they're looking for.