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All Forum Posts by: Adam Macias

Adam Macias has started 15 posts and replied 156 times.

Post: Can you do prison time for wholesaling

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @John Thedford:

I know some unlicensed Brokers that should be in prison.


 Just... hahaha

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Nate Marshall:
Quote from @Lucia Rushton:

@Katlynn Teague if you are a realtor why don’t you work at a proper brokerage ?

Like you my experience is most wholesalers are not skilled, nor provide proper rehab costs, nor ARVs and over the last few years have taken most of the meat off the bone.

For seasoned investors it’s different, they have experience. But for new investors I don’t recommend it because they do not get to do any due diligence and no one is looking after their interest.

I also wish there was more integrity in the wholesale arena. As always just my opinion.


 The Taliban and ISIS have more credibility and honor than wholesalers by an large. 


Serious? That's an extremely immature statement to make lol I'm glad you're in Evergreen, CO too because I love doing deals there. Maybe I'm the reason you hate wholesalers. Sorry not sorry.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Bob S.:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Bob S.:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Bob S.:

Most are clueless; however, I do get about 20 a week sent to me in my market from them. Most no nothing about the property except for the photos they were sent, (photos are meaningless) They say but bob look at the ROI, again they are clueless, they do not even know how to determine the net cap and know nothing about the area,. So they are very useful you just need to know what you are doing.

   Also, all due respect I NEVER deal with realtors. I have done about 500 in my market and only used a realtor 10 years ago for a few.  I have found that most NOT ALL, realtors do not have a clue either. They show up at a house not knowing anything about it. How many deals do not close as they are off by 20 30 40k ( realtor fees). They all have the same line. " Multiple offers highest and best". I have to tell them what to offer. Just last year when I purchased my primary. Ask was 650 I said offer 450, Oh no , that's to low, you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner. Oh, ok I will do it. Sure, enough got it for 525k including the 15k golf membership, realtor made 15k for DOING ZERO work. All she did was get us in. Not a bad gig. 

So everyone needs to know their market, they should know exactly what to pay and where to buy. If they have to ask the realtor if this is a good deal they should not do the deal. Never leave that up to the wholesaler or the realtor,, know what you are doing. 

All the best 


 You can't go around the wholesaler and it's actually a very shady move. That's why contracts exist.


 Who said anything about going around a wholesaler ? 

"you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner."
I'm talking in direct response to this sentence. Not saying you yourself have bad intent, but if anybody operates this way it's shady business. Contracts must be honored. Sellers can't take that contract and start bidding it to others... UNLESS it's assigned lol Anytime a buyer has tried that with me, I'm glad I warn the seller ahead of time saying buyers will do everything possible to try and convince you to take their offer.

 You are misreading.... again. I was referring to the realtor not wanting to put in a low-ball offer. I tell the realtor I will speak with the owner. ( realtors are a waste of time for my reasons above ) You cant go around the wholesaler as they have a contract, nor would I want to. I get 20 deals a week sent to me from them. 


 It's not that I misread, you just didn't explain yourself.

Post: Experienced wholesaler looking for agents and investor buyers in North Carolina

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105

Sup ya'll! It's Adam with BiggerPockets. I've been wholesaling for a few years now in Colorado but am opening up my business to North Carolina! Please let me know if you're an agent, investor buyer of any kind, contractor, anything that'll be a resource with us doing deals together. Here's a video introduction:

https://share.descript.com/vie...

Post: Why do investors want to work w/Wholesalers vs Realtors?

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Patrick Drury:

@R. Elle Berry
A lot of agents don't source off-market deals like wholesalers do 


 It really is a difference in intention. Wholesalers look for the biggest discount possible and agents look to sell for the highest price possible.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Bob S.:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Henry Clark:

My mother taught us to eat food even if from someone you don’t like.


Pick wholesalers who are in the geographical area you want.  Train them in the types of property you’re looking for.  Develop a fee based approach for them.   Tell them how you want deals Served up.  


 The real question is, why don't you like wholesalers?

 Why? We all responded to that question. 99% are clueless, that's why . When you hear, ", my partner has the contract direct " that means they do not know anything about the property. . They " teamed up  " with someone they do not know and are trying to sell it without knowing anything about it. BEST question everyone should ask these clowns, Who is the owner., that will back them into a corner then you know 100% they are not direct.


Yes, I agree. It's like my favorite question to ask buyers, "Are you prepared to close in 3 days, place a generous EMD down or both?" Great, great question to qualify buyers.

Post: Closing Statement for a Wholesale Transaction

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Terri Johnson:

I could use some advice! I didn't end up with an investor-friendly title officer as I asked the wrong people for referrals (oops) and she doesn't know how to transact a wholesale deal. How can I help her?

She is still considering me the buyer when I have assigned the contract to someone else. She is still using the purchase price that I got the contract under and not taking the assignment fee into consideration on the closing statement.

What can I do? Does anyone have an example closing statement that I can show her? This is the first wholesale transaction I have done.

Thank you!

 This sounds like the fee wasn't stated in the assignment. Was that the case? If so, the biggest problem is the legality of the title company honoring what's in a contract. An assignment of contract is a contract. So if your fee wasn't stated in there, the title company is in the right. They can't operate via word of mouth.

Now, if the fee was stated in the assignment of contract, they MUST honor the contract and cut you a check for your fee at closing.

Disclaimer here: Just my experience in dealing with title companies and attorneys.

Post: Beginning a Wholesale Business

Adam Macias
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  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Larry Freeney:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Larry Freeney:

Thank you, @Adam Macias and @Amber Forkey for your generous insights!


 I can make a 4 hour video just talking about how bad do you actually want it. That's the thing. Don't put this on a pedestal of some magical unicorn that happens to a select few people. What snapped me out of overthinking is just saying I'm smarter and tired of all these stupid people making money in real estate lol I know that sounds harsh at first but when I was a barista I just got mad one day and said screw it no more waiting. Just get it done.

That’s my exact line of thinking. If someone can do it, so can I! 

Most people have never seen a $15,000 check so it's a mental barrier to break. The romance of making it bigger than what it is stops most people. I see it all the time. It's a believe that holds them back.

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Bob S.:
Quote from @Katlynn Teague:
Quote from @Larry Turowski:

Gotta agree with @Bob S.. The bar is really low for becoming a wholesaler. The  bar is only slightly higher for becoming a realtor and they can be every bit as bad and shady as wholesalers.

The truly good wholesalers and truly good real estate agents who work really hard—they’re great.  That said, like Bob, I haven’t bought a listed property in a long time.


 Larry, thank you for taking the time to comment.

I agree with Bob as well. That said, to avoid getting yourself in a sticky situation with a shady wholesaler or realtor is asking the right questions upfront! 


 I can tell in 20 seconds of the wholesaler, is real or not. I always ask, are you direct with the owner? When they say, " my partner " is. That means they found a deal online, they are now marketing it and calling themselves a wholesaler. I than say, ok so you are not direct, then then talk BS. I than ask, do you know who, Mr Jones is? I find the name of the owner 1st, they say umm no I then say its the owner you idiot, but hey thanks for the lead, :)

All the best, 


 This is a very valid point because "co-wholesaling" has a huge amount of illegal activity and people who are brokering without a license. I love you brought this up. If the wholesaler is not under contract directly with the seller, it's not worth pursuing. 

Post: What is your opinion on wholesalers?

Adam Macias
Posted
  • Agent Sales Representative at BiggerPockets
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 105
Quote from @Bob S.:
Quote from @Adam Macias:
Quote from @Bob S.:

Most are clueless; however, I do get about 20 a week sent to me in my market from them. Most no nothing about the property except for the photos they were sent, (photos are meaningless) They say but bob look at the ROI, again they are clueless, they do not even know how to determine the net cap and know nothing about the area,. So they are very useful you just need to know what you are doing.

   Also, all due respect I NEVER deal with realtors. I have done about 500 in my market and only used a realtor 10 years ago for a few.  I have found that most NOT ALL, realtors do not have a clue either. They show up at a house not knowing anything about it. How many deals do not close as they are off by 20 30 40k ( realtor fees). They all have the same line. " Multiple offers highest and best". I have to tell them what to offer. Just last year when I purchased my primary. Ask was 650 I said offer 450, Oh no , that's to low, you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner. Oh, ok I will do it. Sure, enough got it for 525k including the 15k golf membership, realtor made 15k for DOING ZERO work. All she did was get us in. Not a bad gig. 

So everyone needs to know their market, they should know exactly what to pay and where to buy. If they have to ask the realtor if this is a good deal they should not do the deal. Never leave that up to the wholesaler or the realtor,, know what you are doing. 

All the best 


 You can't go around the wholesaler and it's actually a very shady move. That's why contracts exist.


 Who said anything about going around a wholesaler ? 

"you will piss off the seller, (EXACTLY what I want to do) I am not comfortable putting in that offer. I said Ok I will deal directly with the owner."
I'm talking in direct response to this sentence. Not saying you yourself have bad intent, but if anybody operates this way it's shady business. Contracts must be honored. Sellers can't take that contract and start bidding it to others... UNLESS it's assigned lol Anytime a buyer has tried that with me, I'm glad I warn the seller ahead of time saying buyers will do everything possible to try and convince you to take their offer.