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All Forum Posts by: Abdul Azeez

Abdul Azeez has started 82 posts and replied 465 times.

Post: Need some input from other sellers

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:
Quote from @Abdul Azeez:
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

Not being familiar with your area’s standard forms I’d say that 99% of the appraisal contingencies I’ve seen either expire automatically (the buyer waives it) or require the buyer to give notice of low appraisal at which point the deal is either renegotiated or cancelled depending on what they say in their notice.
Check that language. If what I am used to is mirrored in your PSA and you (or your agent) haven’t received any notices, your buyer waived the contingency and you keep earnest money if they fail to close (unless there are other contingencies allowing the buyer to terminate).


 They sent a notice saying it underappraised and they will go $5k over. We sent a notice that unless they terminate, we are assuming that closing happens as scheduled for the offer price to which I have not heard back.


 Wrong. But again depends on your contract. You can’t send a notice “assuming” the deal is still alive. The contingency is likely in their favor. They gave you notice of low appraisal and complied with their $5k gap. If the deal is not at that price point, there is no deal. The deal is off but you can renegotiate. Your response of “thanks for complying with the terms of the original deal but we’ll assume we are moving forward with a price point outside of the original deal anyways unless you tell us to the contrary once again” doesn’t work and is not a renegotiation. There might be more to it. Very hard to comment without having reviewed the transaction docs…


 Not assuming but expecting. I did not use the right language above.

Post: Need some input from other sellers

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

Not being familiar with your area’s standard forms I’d say that 99% of the appraisal contingencies I’ve seen either expire automatically (the buyer waives it) or require the buyer to give notice of low appraisal at which point the deal is either renegotiated or cancelled depending on what they say in their notice.
Check that language. If what I am used to is mirrored in your PSA and you (or your agent) haven’t received any notices, your buyer waived the contingency and you keep earnest money if they fail to close (unless there are other contingencies allowing the buyer to terminate).


 They sent a notice saying it underappraised and they will go $5k over. We sent a notice that unless they terminate, we are assuming that closing happens as scheduled for the offer price to which I have not heard back.

Post: Need some input from other sellers

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

What is in writing? The buyer either has or has not waived the appraisal gap contingency either choosing to proceed to closing or cancelling the deal. Waiting to hear something is not contractual unless you are within the contingency period and the buyer has time to either cancel or waive. Some documents and notices should’ve been exchanged if you are out of the contingency period

Buyer has not waived the appraisal contingency. The issue is they have also not told that they are terminating. From my side, I have signed a notification that unless buyer immediately terminates contract, we will assume that closing will happen as scheduled for the contract price. What is my course of action here? The broker just says they are waiting to hear from the other broker.

Post: Need some input from other sellers

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

I am an investor who listed a house on sale with a realtor. We received several offers and I selected a loan offer. The contract had a special stipulation indicating that buyer is willing to pay $5k over appraisal if appraisal is less than offer price. After appraisal, although appraisal came higher than list price, it came less than offer price. With the $5k added, it still did not meet my lowest limit I was hoping to get. The buyer was unwilling to go up any higher. So, I asked my realtor to terminate the contract and move forward with a backup offer. However, buyer threatened to sue due to non-performance. After talking to attorney on my side, the listing realtor and broker have clearly said that seller does not have to accept the lesser offer. So, a notification was sent to the buyer than unless they immediately terminate the contract we expect them to close as scheduled. Closing is less than a week away. However, since the seller was unwilling to even come up to a mid-point previously, I highly suspect they will do the offer price. I have tried to follow up multiple times with my realtor and broker and they said they are still waiting for the other side to respond. It's been 4 days. Given that a) closing is coming up next week and b) I am unable to move forward with the back up offer, what do I need to do now other than indefinitely wait. When I follow up, I keep getting the message that they are still waiting for buyer side to respond.

Post: Question on contract

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

The buyer could still voluntarily pay the extra difference. I suppose the seller could choose not to accept the extra $$$ from the buyer and force the cancellation of the contract but why would the seller do that if the property is about to sell well above appraisal?


Because buyers agent threatened seller that buyer would sue seller for performance and had to be firmly dealt with and corrected that seller was in the right. It was a matter of principle. Buyer finally realized they were in the wrong.

Post: Question on contract

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

Buyer realized they were in the wrong.

Post: Question on contract

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

I am stuck here a bit.

“the appraisal comes lesser than the offer amount and if the $x over appraised value still leaves a lot of difference from the offer price”

Is the difference mentioned above higher or lower than the contract?

Say contract is $100k. Appraisal gap contingency is $10k

Did the appraisal come in at $85k? If so, $85k + $10k = $95k. The buyer gets to walk if they want (or voluntarily pay $5k more). Nothing the seller can do

OR

Did the appraisal come in at $95k? If so, Buyer must purchase at $100k (original contract is within the appraisal plus contingency gap). Seller must sell at $100k. Seller cannot walk OR demand $105k (appraisal plus full appraisal contingency gap)

Appraisal came in lower than offer price. When the $5k over appraisal is added it still is $9k less than offer price. So seller has option to walk away.

Post: Question on contract

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Wayne Brooks:

@Abdul Azeez No, you don’t have to sell for less than the contract price.  The contract price is still the price….this clause just obligates the buyer to pay up to $10k above appraisal, to meet the contract price.  It doesn’t obligate the seller to accept less than the contract price. The buyer and their agent will lose this battle.

Thank you. That's what my thought is and also confirmed by my broker. Hypothetically speaking if the appraisal came in say $30k under contract, the seller has no obligation to sell at that price.

Post: Question on contract

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Monica Bynum:

Are you the seller or buyer? 


 Seller

Post: Question on contract

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Quote from @Monica Bynum:

I would advise for you to speak with your title company that is closing the deal. I just recently had this situation and made sure to include the proper wording for my seller. 

Right now it's a bit late for that isn't it? We already have a contract. The issue is after appraisal.