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All Forum Posts by: Marcus Auerbach

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Post: 1031 exchange options

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Quote from @Miguel Hernandez:
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@Miguel Hernandez it might be too soon for an upgrade. 67K is not enough for 25% down on a decent quad. It may be enough to upgrade to a duplex in a quality area, but that is also tough under the time constraints of a 1031 - Milwaukee is currently the #most competitive market in the US per Redfin Feb 2025 report. Many 1031 exchanges I see will buy a property above fair market value, because that is still better than paying 25% or more in income tax. But that requires a big chunk of cash for the sale, that's why I said it might be too soon.


 Hey Marcus,

I do agree it is a bit too soon for a 1031 exchange, but this property I have is not performing as I expected. I am not receiving any cashflow from this property. That is why I want to 1031 into something that has better bones and that will cashflow positively. 
I currently don’t invest in Milwaukee, I focus more on cities outside of Milwaukee. I’m not sure if these areas are affected. The 2 markets I am very interested in at Racine and Kenosha. Maybe a 4 unit is out of range for me, but I’m hoping to get a tri plex or at least a duplex that performs better than the property I currently own.


What interests you about Racine and Kenosha specifically? We also buy in the surrounding cities and not in Milwaukee, but I would not rank those tow very high. If you want to stay on the south side then maybe look into Greenfield, West Allis etc - plenty of dupelxes there

Post: Out of State investing does not work. With very few exceptions.

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I would suggest that the best way to invest out of state is simply to get a partner.  Find the best niche and area in the country and then find a partner to hammer it.  Then you'll eliminate the nuisance fee that invariably gets added to OOS investing.

OOS investing can be absolutely ripe with issues.  Agree 100%. But there are unique niches that you can only find in certain areas of the country. And you can't replicate them just anywhere.   And when the margins are really good, that nuisance fee that you have to account for is peanuts compared to what you can do anywhere else.


I did invest locally (about 6 towns near me) when I started about 15 years ago.  And built a sizable portfolio.  But self managing 83 houses really took a toll. And quite honestly, the ability to find homes where you could be all in at 75% or better really and truly dried up around here.    The investor meetings even stopped because noone was really doing much of anything consistently any more.

I was doing land flipping nationally and hit on an area there in eastern tennessee where the actual build cost and retail cost had an amazing margin.  I tried having a partner out there and he just didn't want to stay put. We found a builder or two that would build for basically wholesale costs but managing them was hit or miss and the margins weren't as good. 

I was able to partner with my ex brother in law who was a small builder here in illinois and did a bunch of my rehabs as well.  He moved out there.  We got our gc license.  And away we went.  We build to sell and build to hold some (the ones we hold we hold individually so we don't split those).

But now I can build new construction cabins that I'm all in at 70% LTV or better so I can BRRR the heck out of these deals. And even with property management built in, I can cash flow positive with essentially no money out of pocket when its all said and done.

I simply could not do the same thing here in illinois.  I tried every which way to even come close.  Just doesn't work. 

So yes, when we build to sell, I'm splitting half the profits. But when we build to hold, I am holding them as 100% owner (he is doing some holds for himself as well).  To me, thats an example of where partnering OOS is one of the best ways to take advantage of the margins and specific niche areas in the country and continue to grow.

Going on two years since we got our license, I have three cabins completed with an equity of about 700k and three more in some stage of building right now. My goal is to build 3 to 4 a year for myself as holds to where I can end up with 20 in the next 4 years. If I can pull that off, that will give me about the same equity that I was able to build in 15 years in sfh's. And probably about 4x the cash flow - and someone else is managing these things.

To me, thats why you should never close the door on OOS.  There are simply certain markets and niches that you can't replicate where you live. But I do think one of the ways to mitigate the risks and costs is to have a partner - or at the very least keep trying to find that one special contractor or boots on the ground person that is truly dependable.  Those people are out there.


Thanks for sharing Mike! Great example! And kind of the exception I mentioned in the Subject line: what you are doing is a stark contrast to buying a cheap rental property remote with high hopes for cash flow.

Post: Removing a Deteriorating Deck Milwaukee

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I never see these doors closed up, so your PM might be onto something, but most Milwaukee duplexes have a front and a rear staircase anyway, in that case you really don't need it. Functionally totally useless today, they were meant to putstinky garbage outside, smoke, dry cloths, shake out carpets (before electric vaccum cleaners were a thing). A phone call to the Milwaukee inspection department will give you clarity. 

Post: 1031 exchange options

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@Miguel Hernandez it might be too soon for an upgrade. 67K is not enough for 25% down on a decent quad. It may be enough to upgrade to a duplex in a quality area, but that is also tough under the time constraints of a 1031 - Milwaukee is currently the #most competitive market in the US per Redfin Feb 2025 report. Many 1031 exchanges I see will buy a property above fair market value, because that is still better than paying 25% or more in income tax. But that requires a big chunk of cash for the sale, that's why I said it might be too soon.

Post: Milwaukee’s median sale price jumped 20% year over year in February

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Hmm. We have a new USPS-lady from Texas and she said her friends back home recommended Milwaukee, which I found interesting, but considered a one-of. But maybe its not? Next years migration reports will tell


Texas draws them in with Jobs no doubt.. But from what I hear from my Texas clients is Weather drives them back out :)  But Texas will continue to grow given its pro business stance and no income tax.. although prop tax's can be through the roof. 

TX is a massive growth story for sure and the unemployment rate does not reflect the full picture, because of the sheer volume of jobs in TX, but I still get a kick out of the fact that WI unemployment is 3.2% and TX at 4.1%.

We have been lobbying in Madison for years for zoning that is more dense and cost-effective to build more "affordable" homes, around 400k. In fact the RPA is going to be there today.


Oregon just passed another law that encourages density.. thats all well and good but will the public buy it..  I know a few developers that did those tiny home clusters and the market did not accept them.. not enough parking and just to small.. your new builds are priced about the same as ours in suburbs of PDX not the top suburb but average price suburb sans basement no one builds basements unless its HIGH end lux home and you need it to get extra sq. ft.. I did that on my personal home.. But maybe google oregon new density rules probably interesting read for you. 

The Milwaukee major initiated a project called GrowingMKE to increase housing density by allowing mix used, low rise and ADUs in the sea of single family homes. This would create more walkable neighborhoods, think corner bakery. They call it the "missing middle" because Milwaukee is a vast sea of single family homes and then some downtown highrises, nothing in between. I think they model this after Washington DC. It would change the face of the city for sure, also solve the income problem we have with high of miles of infrastructure per household ratio.

Post: Milwaukee’s median sale price jumped 20% year over year in February

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

Hmm. We have a new USPS-lady from Texas and she said her friends back home recommended Milwaukee, which I found interesting, but considered a one-of. But maybe its not? Next years migration reports will tell


Texas draws them in with Jobs no doubt.. But from what I hear from my Texas clients is Weather drives them back out :)  But Texas will continue to grow given its pro business stance and no income tax.. although prop tax's can be through the roof. 

TX is a massive growth story for sure and the unemployment rate does not reflect the full picture, because of the sheer volume of jobs in TX, but I still get a kick out of the fact that WI unemployment is 3.2% and TX at 4.1%.

We have been lobbying in Madison for years for zoning that is more dense and cost-effective to build more "affordable" homes, around 400k. In fact the RPA is going to be there today.

Post: Milwaukee Market Ranked Top 10 Most Competetive Rental Markets in 2025!- Thoughts?

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This is the rental competitiveness score report from rentcafe. Last year Milwaukee was ranked #3 in the US, now it's ranked #10. We have a chronic housing shortage in Milwaukee regardless of renting or owning, there are not enough roofs. Redfin ranked Milwaukee as the hottest market in the US in Feb with a 20% increase in median sales price. 

https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/market-snapshots...

I think the reason we have slipped from #3 to #10 during the winter months is the seasonal slowdown in turn over: most leases have an end date outside Nov-March. My prediction is we will be in the top 5 again by summer. 

@Clare Pitcherthanks for posting, I had not seen the new one. Do you guys already feel spring picking up?

Post: Milwaukee’s median sale price jumped 20% year over year in February

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Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

Do you think prices have gone up, or just what is selling is in a different price range?  Median prices I don't think tell the whole story....they don't necessarily mean price appreciation.
Is the population growing or declining?
Maybe people are moving from inner city to suburbs where prices are higher?
What is average price of a new home?

You know it, Bruce. I would agree and say it's a mix of all of the above. And on top February last year was bad, so that makes the difference more pronounced. It's a snapshot compared to a full year data set. So 20% is not the real number, it is probably more like 10% - 12%. I have been talking about this on previous market updates: we should not see double digit monthly increases in the winter off-season. Last year was 8.2% and I would have expected the winter months to be around 3-6% maybe. And one months is an outliar, but 4 months is a trend and I can already tell you from our team's deals that March numbers will come in hot, as well.

For those who are not so familiar: median sold price increase does NOT equal home appreciation. Percentage increases are also higher at the 250k price points than 750k homes which tend to be a lot more moderate. But: after a stable 7-8% appreciation every year for the last 10 this feels like an acceleration and not a very subtle one!

New construction about 2,200 sqft moderately decked out, solid wood cabinets soft close, quarz, LP smart, upgraded flooring and trim package about 550-650. That's with a full 8' basement, poured concrete, but unfinished. We are not seeing a lot of new construction like other States. And our subdivisions are small, 50 units is big for us here LOL. Our local builders are very conservative, many got burnt in 2008.

Post: Milwaukee’s median sale price jumped 20% year over year in February

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

Hmm. We have a new USPS-lady from Texas and she said her friends back home recommended Milwaukee, which I found interesting, but considered a one-of. But maybe its not? Next years migration reports will tell


Texas draws them in with Jobs no doubt.. But from what I hear from my Texas clients is Weather drives them back out :)  But Texas will continue to grow given its pro business stance and no income tax.. although prop tax's can be through the roof. 

Ancedotally I can agree: I have two clients who moved from Milwaukee in search of warmer weather (one Phoenix and one to Dallas) and came back within a year because it was just too hot. I work with a lot of relocation clients and when I ask for reasons #1 is family and close #2 is heat, followed by other weather or climate concerns. As an investor that makes me pretty optimistic for Milwaukee and the Midwest in general, because I believe this is an emerging trend and we will see a lot more of that in the next decade.

Post: Foreclosures Over 1,000,000 loans in default? Time 2 Learn How To Buy Preforelosures?

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@James Hamling solid math. Milwaukee is happy to take another 2,000 homes. That's like spitting in a camp fire..