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All Forum Posts by: Marcus Auerbach

Marcus Auerbach has started 151 posts and replied 4401 times.

Post: First Timer Here! - PLEEEEASE Help me analyze this deal

Marcus Auerbach
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I can't give you a yes/no based just on your numbers: most people make mistakes with their assumptions: rent too high/low, underestimate capex etc. Second, I could not tell you how much the property is worth once you are done. How about the location?

The last 5 years we have gone away from "do the numbers work" to "do we want to own the property?" and then you make the numbers work. Try negotiate, put more down, improve condition etc. I invest in Milwaukee (since 2008) and I do not buy anything from before WW2. We have a lot of 1920's inventory and while they are architecturally attractive, old buildings are VERY expensive to rehab, because everything was custom built on site. You can't just go to Home Depot and buy a new door.

For a first deal my gut feeling is that it is too complex: mixed use, but especially the rehab. You don't need to make all your money on your first deal, but you do want to make sure there is a second one. And if you tank you first one, there will never be a portfolio.

So my recommendation is to worry less about the year one cash flow (totally overrated as a decision-making factor, yet you have to start there), instead look at it more wholeistically, opt for a less complex deal, and buy the best quality real estate you can afford. 

Post: Is the Florida market about to correct? (or crash??)

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Quote from @V.G Jason:
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Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

I just looked through some numbers for southern FL and they look bad. 

Miami-Dade County has over 8 months worth of suppy, Monroe County (Florida Keys) has almost 12 month worth of supply. Anything over 5 is considered a sellers market. 

Boward County (Fort Lauderdale) has 8 months' worth of inventory, almost 18,000 homes for sale. In comparison my home market Milwaukee County has 1 month supply and a total of 651 homes listed for sale. Granted, at about half the population, but the difference is almost incomprehensible. This looks like post 2008 levels.

Sold to List Price ratio's are slipping below 95% in FL, I have not seen much under 100% in 5 years. 

Who is local in Miami, Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Sarasota and can speak to the market down there?


 I would say markets are going to start "correcting" and it will vary between location and product type. As many of us have been saying on here for a while, there will be a point when this will occur and areas will soften or stay stagnant for a period of time while it allows incomes to slowly grow during that time. 

Opex is the headwinds in SW FL. Opex issue in FL is as material as cap rate for commercial MFs in a national scale. If you're able to get a downpayment, DTI approval, then the opex will likely be the deal breaker.

BP Legend Bob Stevens & I mentioned SW FL a year or so back. Didn't take a genius to see this. This has been forming-- phys RE cracks are slow to mature but swift in it's action.

Austin, among other cities, is one to watch for. And a few others are in this territory and will be by Q4 2025 which will take 6-18 mos to realize. RE ETFs are showing very bearish signals which is primed for correction territory not sure if it gets there or even worse into bearish territory but let's see how that unwinds. The underlying holdings are commercial which could be a pain point for lenders.

If RE agents do what they do best--manipulate the markets-- we'll see Q2 in 2025 and 2026 get overcrowded with supply in areas that are already trending back to pre-pandemic levels.  In some areas, like Miami, that may push them to 10-14 month of inventory. The real material break and true crash is north of 40 months of inventory, once you get 1/3 of that so call it 13-ish months it's in correction territory and bearish at the 21-24 month level. At least from all the levels we're looking at here internally.  That's a long way to go, but a huge hit to anyone that bought with intending to re-fi in the short term from 2023 to today.


SWF has been a boom bust market for decades..  U cant have 1 million platted legal lots of record of which maybe half are built on.. and expect linear rise in values.. 

I think you give far to much credit to RE agents.. there is no way they themselves manipulate the market.. might be some bigger players but the average agents its not in their playbook.

 You are right, I am. I don't think individual agents are savvy enough to think that way, let alone orchestrate it. It is more so a top down mandate from brokerages.

While it doesn't happen it at large, it is happening more often the past 2 years or so when I ask directly why the withholding. Also see a lot of brokerages try to buy the house before it gets listed, but that's another story. 


 Brokerages lack the means to do so, but frankly also the motivation. A brokerage could not care less if prices are 5% up or down, as a business the only thing that matters is transaction volume. A super-hot market can lack transaction volume and is hard on agents. Much better to have a balanced market with about equal supply and demand.

Post: Is the Florida market about to correct? (or crash??)

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Quote from @Jorge Vazquez:

Hey man, I saw the post about Florida’s market "crashing," and honestly, I think it’s way overblown.

First off, yeah, inventory has gone up, but that doesn’t mean the sky is falling. Central Florida and Tampa Bay are just normalizing after a couple of wild years. Orlando’s median home price is still up about 4% from last year, and Tampa’s median sold price is actually higher than before—up around 5.2%. If we were heading for a crash, prices wouldn’t be holding steady like that.

Now, let me tell you from my own experience—I own 32 properties, and here’s how things have played out:

  • 15 have dropped about 20% in value (mostly in areas where demand cooled off).
  • 10 have stayed flat, meaning no loss or gain.
  • 7 have actually gone up in price, which proves that not everything is crashing—some pockets are still appreciating.

And I don't touch condos. Ever. Not after what happened to my mom. She owned one, and everything seemed fine—until the HOA hit her with a massive assessment. She went from having an affordable place to suddenly facing thousands of dollars in unexpected fees. When she couldn’t pay, she had to sell fast, and guess what? She took a major loss. Condos can be a nightmare because you’re not just buying a property—you’re buying into whatever financial mess the HOA decides to hand you.

That’s why I stick with single-family homes and small multifamily properties—I control my own expenses, my own decisions, and I don’t get blindsided by ridiculous fees.

At the end of the day, we’re just seeing the market shift back to something healthier. Interest rates are still high, which is slowing things down, but as they drop later this year (which I fully expect), you’ll see more buyers jumping back in.

So yeah, no 2008-style meltdown here. More like a market taking a deep breath after sprinting for two years straight. If you’re investing, this is actually when you start getting better deals—not when you panic.

What do you think?


Definitley not a reason to panic, just interesting to watch the data and see this play out in a present day market. The inventory numbers are mind blowing to me. We have literally 651 listings in a market that is half the size of Boward County and they have 18,000 - we could use some of that inventory.

Way too much equity for a 2008 melt down, and people can just NOT sell and hold.

My data is from RPR and it's condos plus SF combined, I believe I can filter condos. 

It will be interesting to see how the psychology plays out. I wonder if some owners will become sellers because of what they see in the market. Its that get-out-while-you-can menatlity. Or it might just level out. With a couple more years of elevated inflation the affordability issue will be softening too.

What i am trying to understand are the reasons and the dynamic of what is happening there. Are most of the condos second homes?

Post: Is the Florida market about to correct? (or crash??)

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Quote from @Ray Hage:

I don't think it will be crashing on the whole....condos, however, yes I see a crash that has already started months ago and going to get worse soon. For SFH, small MF, most commercial, etc should have a correction.

I just pulled MLS data last night. Dade has 5.6 months of inventory of SFH and Broward 5.1 months as Jan 2025. Don't get me wrong, it could get worse but I wouldn't freak out yet. I think we are just normalizing.

Just now out of curiosity, I just pulled Broward data for condos/TH and it is 10.8 months and 11.9 months for Dade! Data can be dangerous if you're not looking at the details.


Yeah, this is RPR data, so it's SF+condos combined. So seems like it's more a condo issue at the moment, which points me to second homes and not Airbnb as the main driver. 

As an investor, I am always looking for opportunities and you have a lot more leverage to negotiate in a high inventory market. In my market, anything good goes way over list. 

And for agents changes in the market mean more transactions, so that's good in my book. I work mostly with relocation and higher-end clients and consumers think a super hot market is good for agents. It sucks, I'd rather have 2 offers on a listing and a day to review than 12 offers and 2h binding acceptance! And on the buyer side it's just brutal without inventory. So I'd love for my market to cool off a bit!

The question for me is what are real specific reasons WHY this is happening in S-FL? When you understand the reasons you can form an opinion on the extent of this situation and what will happen next. What do you see?

Post: Is the Florida market about to correct? (or crash??)

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I just looked through some numbers for southern FL and they look bad. 

Miami-Dade County has over 8 months worth of suppy, Monroe County (Florida Keys) has almost 12 month worth of supply. Anything over 5 is considered a sellers market. 

Boward County (Fort Lauderdale) has 8 months' worth of inventory, almost 18,000 homes for sale. In comparison my home market Milwaukee County has 1 month supply and a total of 651 homes listed for sale. Granted, at about half the population, but the difference is almost incomprehensible. This looks like post 2008 levels.

Sold to List Price ratio's are slipping below 95% in FL, I have not seen much under 100% in 5 years. 

Who is local in Miami, Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Sarasota and can speak to the market down there?

Post: New siding worth it in this case?

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Quote from @Noah Kellar:

Is it worth spending 16k on new LP smartside siding prior to an appraisal for a refi or heloc? Old home built in 1920 with original painted wood siding covered by aluminum (which seems to be costly these days). Roughly 1,600 sq ft. 2 stories.

The alternative is to repair, pressure wash & paint the property costing roughly 4k-6k due to the amount of labor. Aluminum has dent & holes in areas that will need to be addressed before painting.

I do not plan on selling for at least 5 years. The goal is to rent & refi. I would like to make sure the siding is presentable before paying for an appraisal. Thanks for any insight.


 Impossible to give you a good answer without knowing the property value. Not worth it on a 100k house, probably worth it on a 300k+ house in the long run. 

The appraiser will not give you much now, but when it comes time to sell, it will make a big difference. 

Fun fact: best ROI in the annual Cost vs Value report is a garage door. It's relatively cheap for how big it is, but large and can give you a lot of curb appeal.

Post: This is exactly how much it cost me to rehab a 2bed 1 bath apartment in Philly

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Very nice work @Alan Asriants. Your experience shows! 

And I like that you are not cutting corners on things that are required (like code-compliant electrical) to things that are just nice, like backsplash or 3 way switches.

Cost-wise, this is really a best-case scenario and it is great that you are pointing this out!

For example we usually budget about $2,500 for kitchen appliances including dishwasher, because we rent to families and a full-size french door fridge alone will be $1200-$1400.

And we usually have two bathrooms, and they take a lot of material and labor. We are usually around $50 to $60/sf but that usually includes new windows, new HVAC, all new pex etc.

The category Misc. Materials is very sneaky indeed! It's not the cost of the big ticket items that kills your budget, it's the loooong list of small tasks and receipts!

Post: CPA Recommendations Kenosha Wisconsin

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I use SVA in Brookfield, but they are a big firm. With a hand full of rentals you could go online to any CPA in the US, but I have a thing for doing business local and stay in the Milwaukee area. 

What I have done in the past is Google CPA near me, phone interview maybe 5 or 6, ask them if they have REI clients and what types of properties. Interview the top 2 in person.

I would also ask if they can do accounting for you. 

We have a separate accounting service, drop off all the paperwork once a month, they have access to all our bank accounts, so they can reconcile Quickbooks with our bank accounts. If you stay on top of Quickbooks every month, doing taxes in spring is super easy.

I did my own accounting for too many years, was one of the happiest days when I hired a professional accountant.

Post: Seller won't give up security deposits at sale

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It does not matter what the seller wants. Or the listing agent.

If you have a provision on assigning leases to the buyer and transferring security deposits in the Offer To Purchase (in Wisconsin that's part of the standard form) the title company will put the SD as a line item on the closing statement. End of story.

I can't imagine the Iowa State contract does not have a similar provision!? Without it the lease would remain between the previous owner and the tenant, you would not even be entitled to rent...

Post: Early Issue Title Insurance: Why You Need Every Invoice & Legitimate Contractors

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...and don't forget to collect a W9 right away and a copy of their insurance! Which BTW solves the issue of having contact information on file.