First investment property in the books!

First investment property in the books!

Real Estate Agent · Southern Pines, NC · Member since 2020 · 15 posts · 16 votes

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $368,000

This is the first investment property that I just closed today! It is a 5 unit apartment complex comprised of 4: 1 bedroom 1 bath and one 2 bedrooms 1.5 bath apartment. I purchased with 3 tenants in place all paying significantly under rental values ($300-500 lower) but after renovations, I plan to increase rent to the market value and will have an estimated cash flow of $1400 a month.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I was interested in the property because it needs a lot of work, but the cash flow after was too hard to turn down. The location is close to a military base so tenants have a steady job during this crisis which made it even more appealing.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

MLS. It was managed by a property management company that took a very hands-off approach and let the work being done be subpar and with the owners not being local they did not have a clue the condition the property was in. I saw the potential and brought up the poor work needing to be done (mainly electrical) and the estimates I received for the work along with a low ball offer out there of $115,000 lower than asking price and they accepted.

How did you finance this deal?

FHA loan, we intend to live in the 2br/1ba apartment.

How did you add value to the deal?

We are currently renovating the apartments which will allow us to increase rent by up to $500 per unit.

What was the outcome?

We just purchased the deal so TBD so stay tuned!!

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Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2016 · 593 posts · 664 votes
6y

@Kyle Kline

It's a good place to be!

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  • Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2014 · 538 posts · 432 votes
    6y

    @Kyle Kline Awesome! I can't wait to read the finished story here and all of the success you've had (and, of course, the 1001 bumps along the way ;) those are inevitable!)

    Best of luck on your renovations, and getting this beauty truly cashflowing for you and your family, sir!

  • Rental Property Investor · Saint Charles, IL · Member since 2014 · 304 posts · 222 votes
    6y

    @Kyle Kline congrats on your apartment hack.

    Can you explain how you got FHA financing on a commercial property with only 3-5 units occupied and smaller loan amount?

    Specifically the loan program, rate, term etc.

    Best wishes!

  • Real Estate Agent · Southern Pines, NC · Member since 2020 · 15 posts · 16 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Ashley Pimsner:

    @Kyle Kline congrats on your apartment hack.

    Can you explain how you got FHA financing on a commercial property with only 3-5 units occupied and smaller loan amount?

    Specifically the loan program, rate, term etc.

    Best wishes!

    Of course, the buying process was interesting with the FHA because the listing at first was for 5 units, but the amount of work needed and the fact it sat on the market for a bit gave us some power. In our negotiations we worked very closly with our loan officer and we came up with a way to get conventional financing for the property which was to require the owner to remove the appliances in the basement apartment that was vacant which satisfied the FHA requirement for the conventional loan because it only had 4 livable spaces then. This gave us a great APR at 3.125% for 30 years and only requiring 3.5% out of our pockets.

    ALong with the FHA, as i am sure you know, it is required to be owner occupied so my wife, 8 month old baby, and our dog intend to move into the 2br unit once remodeled for a year before moving and doing this again.

    We are considering a refi into a commerical and pulling out the equity (BRRRR) so we can get the property appraised on profit and not comps because in this area these properties rarely come on the market which led to a very low appraisal for our buying process but still considering and investigating this plan as I am not very knowledgable in the commercial loan process.

  • Property Manager · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2019 · 123 posts · 65 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Kyle Kline:

    Investment Info:

    Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

    Purchase price: $368,000

    This is the first investment property that I just closed today! It is a 5 unit apartment complex comprised of 4: 1 bedroom 1 bath and one 2 bedrooms 1.5 bath apartment. I purchased with 3 tenants in place all paying significantly under rental values ($300-500 lower) but after renovations, I plan to increase rent to the market value and will have an estimated cash flow of $1400 a month.

    What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

    I was interested in the property because it needs a lot of work, but the cash flow after was too hard to turn down. The location is close to a military base so tenants have a steady job during this crisis which made it even more appealing.

    How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

    MLS. It was managed by a property management company that took a very hands-off approach and let the work being done be subpar and with the owners not being local they did not have a clue the condition the property was in. I saw the potential and brought up the poor work needing to be done (mainly electrical) and the estimates I received for the work along with a low ball offer out there of $115,000 lower than asking price and they accepted.

    How did you finance this deal?

    FHA loan, we intend to live in the 2br/1ba apartment.

    How did you add value to the deal?

    We are currently renovating the apartments which will allow us to increase rent by up to $500 per unit.

    What was the outcome?

    We just purchased the deal so TBD so stay tuned!!

     Congratulations!!  

  • Property Manager · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 21 votes
    6y

    Congratulations, that's quite the find. Looks like a beautiful property! Excited to see the renovations! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Southern Pines, NC · Member since 2020 · 15 posts · 16 votes
    6y

    @Bryan Blankenship oh yes, mid demo on the basement and have already found a hidden walk way behind drywall that had junction box galore! I can’t wait to see the find ha

  • Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2014 · 538 posts · 432 votes
    6y

    @Kyle Kline Oh man, LOL! Once I bought a property and found an ancient box behind a fake wall, so I feel your pain on that one!

  • Brandon GoldsmithBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    Congrats on the closing! Do you think you will continue a value-add type strategy in the future or try and look for at different options. I was also wondering what type of market/ area do you usually look for? @Kyle Kline

  • Real Estate Agent · Southern Pines, NC · Member since 2020 · 15 posts · 16 votes
    6y

    @Brandon Goldsmith I do wish to continue to value-add but am not against other methods. I would like to do a couple of flips a year down the road when all this virus stuff slows down. I currently look around where I live now as it has a pretty steady stream of renters but am actually looking to venture into the Columbus, Ohio area where you are at because I am from that area. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2016 · 593 posts · 664 votes
    6y

    @Kyle Kline

    It's a good place to be!

  • Remington LymanBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Austin Steed:

    @Kyle Kline

    It's a good place to be!

     Agreed 

  • Real Estate Investor · Waldorf, MD · Member since 2014 · 592 posts · 320 votes
    6y

    @Kyle Kline and just like that you scaled to 5 properties @ 73k a door where people are stuck on trying to find one.  Now aren't you glad you listened to your wife?  Let's be honest, all the great ideas start with our wives, when we're out with the fellas we take all the credit.  Lol!!  

    Great job on your success and hope to see you investing in Ohio.  I know everything didn't go according to plan so give us one story of a lesson learned. Thanks KK

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