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Updated almost 6 years ago, 02/11/2019

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Mike M.
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Opinions on Shaker and Garfield Heights for multifamily?

Mike M.
  • Cleveland, OH
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I'm looking at two multi-families in areas of Cleveland that I'm less familiar with. I've done my research, but I'd like a second opinion on if I should stay away from these areas for reasons of crime, poor quality tenants or anything else.

  1. Shaker Heights (Buckey-Shaker) - South of Shaker Square on South Moreland Blvd. 
  2. Garfield Heights - North of Cleveland Clinic and the Garfield Park Reservation on East 104th st. 

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Justin Frank
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Justin Frank
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@Mike M. 

I wish I could help you with this mike. I would love to see people’s opinion on this. I am looking to invest in these areas as well. I hope you get some good answers and good luck 

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John Koster
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Both have relatively hight taxes in the ball park of 4% of retail value and they both border some rougher neighborhoods.   Make sure you calculate the taxes properly for cash flow and study the surrounding areas carefully.

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    Federico Gutierrez
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    Federico Gutierrez
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    • Cleveland, OH
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    Shaker - NAY due to their POS. One of the Worst ones in Cleveland in my opinion.

    Garfield - YAY. POS still lame but no escrow

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    Michael Swan
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    I have over 100 front doors in NE Euclid and Lake County.  That's where I would suggest you invest.  I love how Lake County is SOOOOOO pro landlord and the rents you can get for the price that you pay is phenomenal.

    Swanny

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    Dave DeMarco
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    @Mike M. I would would be VERY careful in the Shaker-Buckeye neighborhood. I owned a duplex there. High crime and not worth a long term investment IMO. 

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    Originally posted by @Mike M.:

    I'm looking at two multi-families in areas of Cleveland that I'm less familiar with. I've done my research, but I'd like a second opinion on if I should stay away from these areas for reasons of crime, poor quality tenants or anything else.

    1. Shaker Heights (Buckey-Shaker) - South of Shaker Square on South Moreland Blvd. 
    2. Garfield Heights - North of Cleveland Clinic and the Garfield Park Reservation on East 104th st. 

     Shaker is going to have a higher class of tenant than Garfield. Same deal with the rents, much higher in Shaker. Outside of that they are rather similar in that they both have very high taxes & strict POS inspection requirements. Shaker's got a lot more owner occupied residents so there is much more inventory to choose from in Garfield.