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Updated almost 2 years ago, 12/15/2022

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Honora Ciancanelli
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Note Investing

Honora Ciancanelli
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Minooka, IL
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Hello

Listened to a podcast today, and they mentioned note investing. Can someone give me more info on this.

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Tim S.
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Tim S.
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That's a broad subject.  These will get you started.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/5359/38939-not...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2016/07/0...

http://www.nuviewira.com/8-steps-to-trust-deed-inv...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/70/topics/182523-new-to-note-investing-heres-where-we-started

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Honora Ciancanelli
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Honora Ciancanelli
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Thanks! 

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Bob E.
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Short answer, A note is a promise to pay- basically a loan contract.  The podcast is referring to buying existing loans secured by real estate.

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Beth Hale
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There are lots of places, and people you can learn about notes from.

I might be careful investing or training with this person.

www.investwithscottcarson.com

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Logan Hassinger
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Logan Hassinger
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As @Tim S.  provided, those are some good posts to get you started. 

I would also say check out a few books that may help you decided if notes is really what you want to do. 

- Paper profits

- Win-Win Revolution

- Bullet Proof Title Due Diligence (this is a deep dive in to understanding what to be looking for when performing your review of a note). 

    I’m also a full time note investor like Desi or Dan Deppin or Chris Seveney or Dave Van Horn Andy Mirza and a number of other people here on BP that names aren’t coming to me. 

    At the end of the note investing comes down to due diligence and relationships. Like many other investments it’s won on the buy. 

    Pick a strategy first, Performing Vs NonPerforming, 1st position or 2nd position, targeted Geographic are, home value/loan balance. From there, there is plenty of info on on BP to get you going in the right direction. 

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    Paolo Ruggieri
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    Paolo Ruggieri
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    very nice passive income, but you need to understand the collateral behind.

    You need to ensure:

    - invest in notes originated in "non-judicial states" (mainly red states) where foreclosure is fast and inexpensive (do not do it in Illionois)

    - loan is less than 80% of the property value... You need to understand how to verify the value 

    PM me if interested and I will be glad to help you

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    Chris Seveney
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    Chris Seveney
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    @Honora Ciancanelli

    Oh this is a deep rabbit hole.

    Here is my resource compilation

    RESOURCE COMPILATION

    1. Educational Resources

    a. Seveney Mortgage Note Investments

    i. Websites which are online marketplaces - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5X6DLTkEZY&t=661s

    ii. Interview with Investors who started out

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBeixPk-Nhs&t=2s

    iii. https://Youtube.com/7einvestments is where I house all my videos

    iv. Good Deeds Note Investing Podcast

    v. Notes and Bolts from the Good Deeds Note Investing Facebook Group

    b. Financing / Note Investing Books (Bold are ones I read, others are from other sources)

    i. Brueggeman, Fisher – Real Estate Finance & Investments (college textbook)

    ii. Joshua Andrews Paper Profits

    iii. Fuqan Bilal Turning Distress into Success

    iv. Jim Napier Invest in Debt

    v. Alex Goldovsky Bulletproof Title Due diligence

    vi. Troy Fullerwood Power of Paper

    vii. Bill Bymel Win-Win Revolution

    viii. Fred Moskowitz - The Little Green Book Of Note Investing: A Practical Guide for Getting Started with Investing in Mortgage

    ix. Edward Griffin – The Creature From Jeckyll Island

    x. Martin Saenz- Note Investing made Easier

    c. Websites For Information

    i. https://www.biggerpockets.com

    ii. https://fixnotes.com

    iii. https://www.getrefm.com/ (excel training)

    d. Note Sellers

    i. www.paperstac.com

    ii. www.snsc.com/sntrading.aspx

    iii. www.Sales.madisonmanagement.net

    iv. www.nationwidesecuredcapital.com

    v. www.fnacusa.com

    vi. www.americannoteexchange.com

    vii. www.notetraderexchange.com

    viii. www.notesdirect.com

    ix. www.watermarkexchange.com

    x. www.colonialfundinggroup.com

    xi. www.paperassetscapital.com

    xii. www.investorsmls.com

    xiii. www.capstonecapitalusa.com

    xiv. www.exchangeloans.com

    xv. www.loanmls.com

    xvi. www.directsourcere.com

    xvii. www.7einvestments.com

    xviii. www.kondaur.com

    xix. www.geminicapitalmanagers.com

    xx. www.Nationalnotegroup.com

    xxi. www.pprnoteco.com

    xxii. www.colonialcapitalmanagement.com

    xxiii. www.mscpinc.com

    xxiv. www.revcapgroup.com/portfolio-stratification/

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    @chris
    This is a great jumping off point! Looking forward to listening to the first episode of Creating Wealth Simplified in the morning as well as checking a couple of the books listed!

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    Kevin Crowell
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    Kevin Crowell
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    Hi Honora -

    Education in this business is key. Use the first 4-6 months to get as much information as possible. Chris' sources are great. Plus, you're here, so you've already started so kuddos to you. Once you feel you have the education behind you, go to a networking event and by that, I mean a note networking event like Noteworthy, DME, or Papersource and network. Relationships are kids, as Logan pointed out so make sure that you make some good ones. Don't be in a rush to purchase your first asset. Know what you want to buy, where you want to buy and don't let anyone influence you otherwise. Do your due diligence carefully. Ask questions on BP when you get confused. Hope that helps. Happy Holidays!