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Marcus Auerbach
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Why I know there is no crash

Marcus Auerbach
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  • Milwaukee - Mequon, WI
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Yes I know, but hear me out. Being an agent and investor has it's perks - I see what's going on in the rental space (much more demand than I have ever seen in my 15 years) and I don't need to tell you what the housing market looks like. The housing market does not move as fast as the stock market, it takes time to change direction and there are signs to look for.

Here is what we (I have 4 agents on my team) would see long before the public would know:

1.) Some of our buyer clients would drop out or make comments about giving up (we have about 60 active buyers at the moment)

2.) Number of showings on new listings would start to go down (from currently 30 per day..)

3.) Number of offers on a new hot listing would start to go down, from 10-20 to 3-5, then 1-2,..

These 3 things are leading indicators and would happen BEFORE the public would notice any changes in the market, but for a buyers agent this makes a night and day difference when you are competing for a house. It will also not happen over night, but gradually over several months.

4.) Fewer listings will sell on the first weekend (active investors and buyers will notice that whatich their MLS feed)

5.) DOM - days on market will start to trend up, thats the first KPI to watch

6.) Inventory will start to increase. We measure inventory in months it would take to sell. Currently less than half a month. Six months of inventory is a neutral market. Over six month is a buyer's market.

7.) Expired listings will increase on MLS

8.) List prices will no longer be higher than previous - appreciation will slow down

9.) If inventory builds up more sellers will rather hold off selling their house and wait for a better time than dropping their price. This reduces new supply and helps to maintain balance. Only sellers who HAVE to sell or are foced by an external factor will be motivated enough to negotiate.

Now we basically have arrived at a market that goes sideways - prices flatline. Still not a crash, at least not the type people are concerned about. The luxury segement may take a dip, certain local markets may go down. But nothing like a nation wide -30% sell out.

In order for a 2008 type of sell off to happen we would need a something that forces homeowners to sell. For example if they could not make their mortgage payments anymore, because wages are going down. We don't have the type of teaser rate mortgages anymore that would suddently jump in cost and put owners in a situation where they no longer can afford their payments. 

Another factor could be envirnmental - if an area runs out of water and essentially becomes uninhabitable people would be forced to sell and there were no buyers. Rising sea levels would do the same (think FL) but while that would destroy local markets it will send surrounding communitoes in a panic mode, because they know they are next - however, this will also benefit markets on higher ground.

The housing market is like an oil tanker when it comes to slowing down or changing direction - it takes a long time and the signs are pretty obvious if you know what to look for. 

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With all due respect, you have only presented a case that the market is not going to crash on 5/6/2022 in Mequon, WI.

Then you're saying what he wrote isn't valid?

What he wrote is valid. What I'm saying is that nobody has a crystal ball. What he has written only applies to the market conditions he is experiencing as of today, when the post was written, with his small team of 4 agents, in Mequon, WI.

What he said can be applied to many markets today, tomorrow, and beyond.  The main point was the timeline delay between the signs and the results.  The fact that he is using his own market adds validity to it because it's a real example.  Not all markets have the same lack of signs, but that's true in any economy, any year.  In the end, the takeaway should be when you see these signs happening in more markets than not, you can then predict somewhere down the road (distant road) we "could" see an economic downturn that impacts REI.  The nice thing about that downturn happening slowly, is we would have time to adjust and defend it.  Maybe that's why we haven't seen any of the gloom and doom resulting in a big "boom"...as in economic explosion.

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