"Point A to Point B" with many moving parts

"Point A to Point B" with many moving parts

Rental Property Investor · Rancho Mirage, CA · Member since 2014 · 101 posts · 63 votes

After 12 years I am winding down my business and relocating from Los Angeles to Massachusetts, for a life overhaul. I have an owner/user office building that is going on the market now. I have always had 1 and sometimes 2 tenants (besides my operation) in my building depending on the expansion and contraction of my operation. The time it takes to sell the building will dictate when I close up my business. My wife has already relocated and is working and living (renting) in the area that we are moving to. Our long time LA house is on the market and will likely close in the next month or so on that. That cash will earmark to purchase a home next year.

I will 1031 exchange the building. My instinct and genuine personal interest is to move in the direction of the multi-family business. I expect my net proceeds to be between 800k and 1+million depending on sale price of my space in LA. I have learned that I will have to exchange with the LLC that I own the building in which is a California LLC. It is unlikely that I will buy apartments in the area I am moving to as I desire higher cash flow than might be available, so i can live off that while otherwise I re-invent myself. And so I expect to have to look markets other than California or Massachusetts. With a good property management company, I am quite comfortable not being across the street from it. With the amount I have to work with I could potentially end up with 2 buildings with many units in them.

The main point of my ramble is I want to be talking ahead of times to lenders, and I do desire to leverage out my proceeds to the point that is reasonable and profitable and with 25 percent down that could be 3.6 to 4 million in purchases. However I am not clear if my track record as a business owner and of a commercial building is the kind of experience that is expected of someone trying to leverage out to bigger multi-family buildings. I otherwise have good credit and other assets beyond the building and the house and multiple years of profitability in running my business. Do I just start talking to lenders in one of the potential areas? Or is there a more generic "rule of thumb" without spinning someone's wheels too much? Which cart goes before which horse?

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Rental Property Investor · Beverly Hills, CA · Member since 2014 · 472 posts · 272 votes
12y

Hey @Michael Klinger 

Massachusetts is a great place to live with lots of areas that are great prospects for investing. I suggest looking at Worcester (near the university) and Waltham - though Waltham and the surrounding towns will be a bit more expensive.

I can refer you a fantastic property manager in Waltham who manages my property and could probably refer you to a property manager in the town you will invest in. I also have a MA mortgage broker who could answer some of your lending questions. If you're looking for an agent who is investor-friendly, I can also put you in contact with him. Send me a PM and I'd be happy to send you the info. 

Sorry to hear you are leaving sunny CA, but glad to hear you are doing a life overhaul. Many of us have been there and understand completely. Best of luck to you.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Beverly Hills, CA · Member since 2014 · 472 posts · 272 votes
    12y

    Hey @Michael Klinger 

    Massachusetts is a great place to live with lots of areas that are great prospects for investing. I suggest looking at Worcester (near the university) and Waltham - though Waltham and the surrounding towns will be a bit more expensive.

    I can refer you a fantastic property manager in Waltham who manages my property and could probably refer you to a property manager in the town you will invest in. I also have a MA mortgage broker who could answer some of your lending questions. If you're looking for an agent who is investor-friendly, I can also put you in contact with him. Send me a PM and I'd be happy to send you the info. 

    Sorry to hear you are leaving sunny CA, but glad to hear you are doing a life overhaul. Many of us have been there and understand completely. Best of luck to you.

  • Landlord and Rehabber · Newton, MA · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 877 votes
    12y

    If you are okay buying places out of your current and future home markets is there a reason you don't want to hold onto this place since it sounds like you do okay with it and have gotten a lot of equity?

    True commercial like that usually gets longer term tenants and since it is a business they don't complain about everything.  Also easier to get them out.

    Might be a slew of reasons why you want to get out of it just didn't see obvious ones from the original post.

  • Mike HurneyPro Member
    Real Estate Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 542 votes
    12y

    @Michael Klinger Welcome.

    You've got a lot going on.

    I'm always careful w/1031s, those deadlines come up fast and the temptation is to take a second choice deal because the first isn't going well.

  • Rental Property Investor · Rancho Mirage, CA · Member since 2014 · 101 posts · 63 votes
    12y

    @ Shaun Reilly: Well depending on how the market responds to my offer to sell my building , it may come to keeping it. However If it sells well -- it will be an opportunity for me to "step up" and buy more and create the opportunity for more cash flow than I could with what I currently own. At least that's how I see it. Plus I am interested and have enthusiasm for finding slightly creative ways to tweak the new properties I acquire to be more profitable. This will be especially true as I am winding down my current occupation/business, I will appreciate having a bit of a purpose for the spare time on my hands, until I figure out what I am going to do with myself in my next chapter.

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