Has anyone done business with FlipOS ?

Has anyone done business with FlipOS ?

Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2021 · 38 posts · 29 votes

I just found out about this company yesterday. This is their website: https://flipos.com/

Upon some initial research, it appears that they are a venture-funded "tech" real estate company. Their value proposition is low HML lending rates (7% and no points) and they agree to purchase your "flip" when the rehab is done (for a pre-determined up-front offer). A friend of mine called them to better understand the process. They sent us a bunch of information, including an in-depth spreadsheet with all of their CMA calculations and how they arrive at their offer price (they did this for a property we were looking at). As long as you rehab the property according to their QC "checklist", they will purchase the property from you at that offer price. By the way, I'm glad to share all the docs they sent (just ping me). Apparently, they recently received $136 million in funding.

I think that they are then, in turn, flipping these rent-ready homes to other investors or institutions (I might be wrong but that's what I'm thinking). Acting as the middleman, with a proprietary framework and system in place, would allow them to push out a lot more volume than if they had to manage the rehabs themselves. So, in my opinion (again, I can be wrong), they are in the business of volume transactions (apparently they are at $21 million in revenue this year).

Is there value in using them versus just managing your own flip? Well. I am just getting started so I don't really know. I would imagine that the value would be low upfront cash required 10% (see some details in the screenshot below) and they fund the rest, and you have a somewhat guaranteed profit margin plus an "apparently" fast turnaround time. It will boil down to maths and probably a simple "T-Chart" to compare FlipOS vs the regular flip (HELOC, cash, HML, portfolio loan, alien money, whatever)....ROI... how much do you need, how long that money will sit for, how much will that money return, and how much risk are you exposed to. I think that can help us compare FlipOS vs the regular flip.

Curious if anyone has done business with FlipOS, also curious to know what people think of this business model (if you haven't done business with them).

Here's their LinkedIn

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Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 7 votes
3y

They just dropped a bomb on everyone who is working on their prepurchased homes. They will not close on them now and leave us holding the bag. Class action lawsuit is forming. Message if interested and join us. 

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  • Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2021 · 38 posts · 29 votes
    4y

    I'm attaching the contract screenshots below for reference.

  • Member since 2021 · 1 post · 0 votes
    4y

    I've done a deal with FlipOS. As advertised they'll fund the flip and buy it back after the rehab is completed. So if you do flips, their system eliminates the "when will the house sell" factor. They'll immediately buy the property from you - no waiting game. They do have criteria's that needs to be met with the rehab, as with anyone/company purchasing real estate to sell or rent. And their sales team is highly knowledgeable with fixing and flipping properties. I've worked with them on a SFH deal, but I heard that they also do deals with other types of real estate.

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    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    4y

    @Jorge Siverio

    Sounds like you’re basically working as a contractor for the company, except that YOU put up money and find the deal.

    Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
  • Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2021 · 38 posts · 29 votes
    4y

    Yup. Just about. 

  • Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 7 votes
    4y

    They are totally legit! I was skeptical at first but Im on my 2nd transaction with them after the first went super smooth. Just adhere to their scope and ask questions if something isnt clear or something isnt noted. Super easy to work with. Best of luck!

  • Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2021 · 38 posts · 29 votes
    4y

    Congrats Julie. The most difficult thing for me so far has been actually finding a deal. 

  • Member since 2022 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Maurice Cardwell:

    I've done a deal with FlipOS. As advertised they'll fund the flip and buy it back after the rehab is completed. So if you do flips, their system eliminates the "when will the house sell" factor. They'll immediately buy the property from you - no waiting game. They do have criteria's that needs to be met with the rehab, as with anyone/company purchasing real estate to sell or rent. And their sales team is highly knowledgeable with fixing and flipping properties. I've worked with them on a SFH deal, but I heard that they also do deals with other types of real estate.


     With your deal was the margin after client costs including your 10% down payment? 

  • Member since 2022 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Julie Magill:

    They are totally legit! I was skeptical at first but Im on my 2nd transaction with them after the first went super smooth. Just adhere to their scope and ask questions if something isnt clear or something isnt noted. Super easy to work with. Best of luck!


     Hi Julie! When you did your deals with FlipOS, do you get your 10% down payment back on top of your "margin after client costs"?

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 84 votes
    4y

    Just spoke to them today.   Intriging idea because the part about flipping I absolutely hate is real estate agents, and retail buyers and the waiting game.

    These guys will buy them hands down.    I love it.


    I think I'm going to do one deal and see how it goes.

  • Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2018 · 117 posts · 46 votes
    4y

    Jorge, did you end up doing one with them and how did it go? 

  • Member since 2021 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Ramon Vazquez:

    Jorge, did you end up doing one with them and how did it go? 


     Think I'm about to give them a shot, keep you posted. Just awaiting on hearing back for an offer on a house in NKC we've got under contract.

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    It actually sounds like a half decent model, kinda like a turnkey swap, give up some of the margin for security, and that margin comes partially from the real estate agent being cut out. 

    But whenever I hear the "they are going to make money on volume" I cringe and start the bankruptcy countdown:

    "sure we will lose money on every deal but we will make it up on volume"

    And 136M is reasonably early stage startup money, so be careful.

  • Specialist · Southlake, TX · Member since 2021 · 213 posts · 157 votes
    4y

    What markets are you looking to invest in? @Jorge Siverio

  • Member since 2022 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    4y

    Well, did anyone give Flipos a shot?  I'm curious to know everyone's experience and I just found out about this today.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2021 · 1 post · 0 votes
    3y

    FlipOS does not do business in Virginia yet, does anyone know of a company that has a similar model as FlipOS that do business in Virginia?

  • Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 7 votes
    3y

    They are now STOA. They informed me they are not buying anymore homes at the moment. Due to the market decline. 

  • Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 7 votes
    3y

    They just dropped a bomb on everyone who is working on their prepurchased homes. They will not close on them now and leave us holding the bag. Class action lawsuit is forming. Message if interested and join us. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2019 · 158 posts · 140 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Julie Magill:

    They just dropped a bomb on everyone who is working on their prepurchased homes. They will not close on them now and leave us holding the bag. Class action lawsuit is forming. Message if interested and join us. 


     Yes they def did this to us and our friend as well! I sent you a message Julie. Anyone else effected by this lets all get together to figure this out.

  • Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 3 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Julie Magill:

    They just dropped a bomb on everyone who is working on their prepurchased homes. They will not close on them now and leave us holding the bag. Class action lawsuit is forming. Message if interested and join us. 


     I am having the same issue. Please let me know the details forming lawsuit. thx

  • Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    3y
    Quote from @Julie Magill:

    They just dropped a bomb on everyone who is working on their prepurchased homes. They will not close on them now and leave us holding the bag. Class action lawsuit is forming. Message if interested and join us. 

    Did the same to me. Just received the email that they will have to push buy-back closing or I can cancel the contract with no penalty. Rehab is 95% complete already. 

    I have investor partners in on this deal that will need to be paid.  Debating on whether to keep the property as a rental or list on-market above what STOA’s offer price.  
  • Investor · Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 3 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Julie Magill:

    They just dropped a bomb on everyone who is working on their prepurchased homes. They will not close on them now and leave us holding the bag. Class action lawsuit is forming. Message if interested and join us. 


     Count me in.  I have one that they did not buy back.

  • Real Estate Broker · Marietta, GA · Member since 2011 · 28 posts · 13 votes
    3y

    My and a friend have three deals with them that they backed out on, please keep me informed of any litigation. 

  • Lender · Boston, MA · Member since 2021 · 125 posts · 64 votes
    3y

    I just noticed this thread from 5 months ago.  This happened to me as well and I lost a ton of money with the deal because of it.  

  • Member since 2021 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    3y

    I would be interested in hearing as well if anyone starts a class action. They pulled out on our property right as we had finished.

  • Member since 2023 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    2y

    Yep, They delayed my inspections, after we completed the renovations and then they offered me about 10k less than what I had the loan for ... Sign me up!!

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