I don't have a dog in the fight, but after really looking for pro/con arguments, I think that too many people glorify it as the solution to all their (and the worlds) problems.

Otherwise, get all the paint from Sherwin Williams because their matching capability is much, much better.

THey aren't the cheapest, but I'm looking at the stress-free release of paying a bit more for lease ups, to not have to put on the armour to fight the nickle and dime approach of some other companies (energy better spent finding deals). 

Here in DFW, we not only have a million or so real estate investors (ballpark estimate) trying to make money, we also have a constant influx of people moving in from high-tax states, so we're fighting both investors and owner-occupants for that crappy 1970s house that needs updating throughout.When I was getting started several years ago, all my early deals were from MLS.

Either they weren't covered in the small print or they wind up having to fight the insurance company to cover them because it was a grey area.

If that doesn't work there are people who will fight to get them lower and won't cost you anything if they are unsuccessful.

I agree that doing the renovations yourself would save TONS of money but some of the things we want to do, we're not capable of (our handiness is sub par)We plan to contract out the "bigger" stuff with the 203k loan and then do the fixes we can handle ourselves during our year of occupancy (although we would be paying out of pocket for any fixes we do afterwards obviously).With the 203k, as long as the house is up to FHA code after reno and as long as what we put into the property total is less than the ARV, then you're good!

Jil is well capable of taking or leaving my musings.

hey im 18 years old and im getting into wholesaling and im bird dogging for a couple investors. my Goal is to start flipping as quick as i can, however being 18 it almost seems impossible but i have big dreams and know i can make it happen if i keep fighting to make those dreams come true.

So now we are fighting back.