BTW, estimating expenses as being 30% of gross may be too low.

But I guess I have to buy his product/service to learn how it works.

They foolishly think they need to keep the rents low to hold onto "good tenants".

I have seen folks try for years to find these mythical private lenders and never do a deal because they can't raise a dime.what the OP is looking for is an asset based lender.. and those are not very common anymore.. especially if you have to find one on the internet means you don't have a track record and have little to no chance of finding anyone who is going to 100% your deal.. unless its just such a low LTV that they are making the loan with a better than 50% chance of owning it when the borrower can't pull it off because the borrower is not experienced and can't execute.  

I've read about an 8-11% discount from the listed price, as well as going as low as 15%, primarily on properties that are fresh on the market.

For what it's worth, I buy professional products from www.domyownpestcontrol.com. 

I am no expert, but what I do not see in San Diego is how we get from the present extremely low inventory levels (especially on the coast and the lower priced $800k and below market) to an excess inventory level which I believe would have to be a precursor to any significant price drop.

Buy low, sell high.

Our prices are creeping up and the inventory is very low at the moment, so great deals are hard to come by, but the market is definitely there.

I have discussed the in's and out's of rents under the 650 mark with a friend of mine that use to own several low-end properties in Covington.