Thanks @Bryan K and @John Moore.

How are other markets such as Vegas and the Rust Belt?

Bryan, the people I work with share my high expectations and are motivated.

Originally posted by Bryan N.

@Bryan L.  

@Bryan HancockI like the 25x annual expenses litmus test.

For example - Every little scratch on your new floor or any rust spot on a newer sink and often they feel more comfortable with everything in just as good of a condition as when they moved in.Higher end tenants care about their credit score ; security deposit ; etc and get nervous if something can jeopardize any of this.

Eight months before my 39th birthday @Bryan H. 

Originally posted by Bryan Hancock:Hi Dave...welcome to BP!

So what goes through their mind is hey if I can just get 20 or 30 of these I can make 5k a month or more and in 30 years they will be paid for then I am making 20k a month.Fast forward to reality.. by the time they buy 2 or 3 and the PM rips them off the tenants don't pay the tenants trash their units they give up then they try to sell. and of course sine they bought from a Turn Key provider and paid far over market they lose 20 to 50% selling and you never hear form them again especially on BP.There was a post a little while back the poster asked anyone to post their success rate if they had owned mid west upper rust best TK for more than ten years how have they done.you got a bunch of local guys defending their market but not a one actual investor.