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19 February 2012 | 7 replies
They haven't paid 2012 annual report fees... just this year though, so not a big deal. #3.
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19 February 2012 | 27 replies
To account for that, you either need to have awesome cash flow, or get the price lower to account for said future costs (or get a deferred maintenance credit from the seller)
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20 February 2012 | 2 replies
I own several SFHs in the lower end of the scale (20k-after-rehab-ish) and while those rent for 550$ on average, some months I may see 20% of that in net income, and most of the time like Jon side, when I get hit with something "unexpected" it may take a big chunk of the gross since while the house is cheap, maintenance costs are high in comparison.
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13 April 2012 | 7 replies
Other expenses - ballpark of 15-20% of gross rent goes towards maintenance & vacancy = N/ATotal = $47,000This is just an example I used with the information I was given.
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21 February 2012 | 21 replies
If the stock market can (or might) give me 10% annual return over time, self directed real estate investing can give me 20% a year over time.
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1 March 2012 | 20 replies
You made $10k on a $70k investment in less than two weeks which amounts to a 14% retrun and over 350% annualized return!
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8 January 2013 | 12 replies
Purchase price = 180,000.Gross monthly- 3900, 46,800/yrTaxes= 4263/yrInsurance~ 1500/yrI figured 15% for PM so 7020/yrAnother 5% vacancy = 234010% maintenance= 4680NOI= 26,991Putting 20% down, the balance over 20 years at 6.5% is 1073.63/ month.
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7 January 2013 | 6 replies
Joel Block has a bi-annual symposium you may consider attending and others like Gene Trowbridge also give multi-day courses on this.
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7 January 2013 | 3 replies
I annualize my expected income and add in a 8-12% vacancy rate (average for US households).
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9 January 2013 | 6 replies
Are there expenses looming such as deferred maintenance, old roofs, faulty, heaters plumbing and so on.